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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Option B help needed. Picture inside.

First off, I do not have dual pass.

The line on the bottom of the tank that goes to the "T" where the stock filler neck was, is shooting bubbles back into the tank.

The bleeder line does work, and it does have the .040 orifice in it. Also, there are no kinks at all.

What gives? Or is that normal? Here is a picture.

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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I have my 3/4" line tucked below the rad support. I did this to make the tank the highest point in the cooling system to help with the bleeding process.

Try lifting the tank up with the car running and the cap off to help "jump start" the bleeding process. I have always done this, and it has always worked for me.

I don't have the dual pass endplate either. I will have one after this weekend though

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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I have my 3/4" line tucked below the rad support. I did this to make the tank the highest point in the cooling system to help with the bleeding process.

Try lifting the tank up with the car running and the cap off to help "jump start" the bleeding process. I have always done this, and it has always worked for me.

I don't have the dual pass endplate either. I will have one after this weekend though

How in the hell did you manage that? Under the headlight housing?

I did lift it up with the cap off for about 1 minute. Seems less and less bubbles from the line..

Will it still work given my routing?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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How in the hell did you manage that? Under the headlight housing?

I did lift it up with the cap off for about 1 minute. Seems less and less bubbles from the line..

Will it still work given my routing?
I did not go under the headlight housing. That is next to impossible (i tried). I turned the T-fitting down facing towards the front of the car. This lays the 3/4" line down lower, and allows you to tuck it under and along the rad support. Look closely at my photo. You will see what I mean.

It should still work the way you have it. I just wanted to make sure the tank was the highest portion of the cooling system so it bleed the air better.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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I had some wierd issues getting my system to bleed too, but using one of these babies instead of a T solved my problems. I have dual pass but this should still apply to you.

Seachoice 3 Way 3/4" Y Fitting - Pipe-Hose Adapters by Discount Marine Supplies



The system bled very very quickly. I had the pump running on an external 12v input and it was sucking down coolant just about as fast as I could pour it. The system was fully bled in about 5 minutes.

My theory is that the directional nature of the Y fitting promotes flow from the tank down into the rest of the system without the turbulence at the T.

See, doesn't that look like the coolant gets to where it needs to go much easier?



Ideally I would have used something like this:



but could not find it anywhere.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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You're brave with no hose clamps pyros
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:21 PM
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I did not go under the headlight housing. That is next to impossible (i tried). I turned the T-fitting down facing towards the front of the car. This lays the 3/4" line down lower, and allows you to tuck it under and along the rad support. Look closely at my photo. You will see what I mean.

It should still work the way you have it. I just wanted to make sure the tank was the highest portion of the cooling system so it bleed the air better.
I see now. But how did you keep it from hitting the s/c pulley?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:27 PM
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I see now. But how did you keep it from hitting the s/c pulley?
Tied it up & back with zip ties. (you can see them in the photo)

I'm also on a slightly smaller pulley than you, but I have plenty of space between the 3/4" hose and pulley so you should be fine as well.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nizzle
You're brave with no hose clamps pyros
haha that was a pre-clamp pic just to show the routing. I've gone the no clamp route before though.... no fun. lol
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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haha that was a pre-clamp pic just to show the routing. I've gone the no clamp route before though.... no fun. lol
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
I did not go under the headlight housing. That is next to impossible




Down the washer fluid opening, up under the headlight bracket, over the radiator shroud. No kinks. Nothing but net.

I changed it up since this pic though. Now the hose runs directly from the resivoir, hugs the frame, passes dangerously close to the belt, and meets the Y. It is zip tied in place and will not budge when force is applied. Pics coming up..
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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Down the washer fluid opening, up under the headlight bracket, over the radiator shroud. No kinks. Nothing but net.

I changed it up since this pic though. Now the hose runs directly from the resivoir, hugs the frame, passes dangerously close to the belt, and meets the Y. It is zip tied in place and will not budge when force is applied. Pics coming up..
I tried that, but did not like the layout of it.

It wasnt a nice direct route like I wanted. I guess that's what I mean by next to impossible. It's doable, just isnt a nice easy run of hose. The TVS def posses a challenge for running the lines for the Opt. B tank though.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Yeah pretty much the same reason I changed it too. Just wanted to razz you. :P
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Yeah pretty much the same reason I changed it too. Just wanted to razz you. :P
Haha.

Well you got me, and proved me wrong!!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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"Attempted" to fix it.

How's this look?




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Haha.

Well you got me, and proved me wrong!!
OH SWEET VICTORY... :P

Ok. Heres pics of the current setup:

That looks like a sharp turn where it is tucked up against the frame, but it is actually gradual bend with no kinking. The shadows kinda play tricks there. There is a zip tie around the hose, then another zip tie looped into the that one, and fed up through the holes in the frame. The zip tie then runs under the headlight bracket a bit. Still need to figure out a cleaner way of doing it.






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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
"Attempted" to fix it.

How's this look?
Looks just like mine!!

Good job man.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
"Attempted" to fix it.

How's this look?

..pics..
Looks great, let us know if it still gives you problems bleeding or bubbling. If it does, I'd highly recommend the Y fitting.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Thanks guys. Drove 20 minutes, open the hood and it's still bubbling from the bottom line. I don't get it. Ugh.
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Is the coolant in the resivoir getting frothy? That would indicate a leak somewhere letting air in.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:29 PM
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Frothy? Like light colored and small bubbles everywhere? After idling or driving?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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drive with the lid off...mine did the same thing... but i drove about a day with no lid on the opt b and now it works
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
Frothy? Like light colored and small bubbles everywhere? After idling or driving?
Yeah like a thick foamy white layer on the surface of the coolant.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 05:00 PM
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Nope, none that I saw. I'd have to check again later, it was just pushing bubbles from the bottom line back to the tank.

I'll pick a Y up tonight and put it on tomorrow after work maybe that'll help.

So if no froth, but still bubbles then what? Just air in there? Should the level drop in the tank?
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Old Oct 6, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Hey if you are still having issues with your Opt. B feel free to PM me.

I have a method of filling the coolant that I have always used, and has always worked.
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