I am looking to get both of these parts, but have been reading both on here and on vendor sites that the Pacesetter has some sort of 3" extension that has to be welded right before the stock cat and that a piece of the stock piping gets cut there as well. Is this true? Does this mean that the Pacesetter header won't work the XTC Downpipe or that it just has to be modified? Any help would greatly be appreciated.

 

that's an issue with every downpipe that is made so far. they installed the flex pipe on the very end. i would presonally just have the local welding shop make you a downpipe, if you want the pacesetter header

 

heres what you do wait until xtc releases their header and buy the combination. if you dont want to wait you can always get the gmpp manifold and the xtc downpipe.

 

I belive the two parts you are refering to have different ways of bolting up. The pacesetter uses a ball and socket type collector not a flange and gasket.

 

yeah.... you could always have an exhaust place cut off that part and weld a flange for the ss on there so it would match up to the d.p.

 

Thats what I'm doing.

 

Thanks for the help everyone. I think I may go with ZZP's header and downpipe package deal now that it has been solved. Plus I know there wont be any fitment issues between them.

 

zzp header... XTC d.p.... zzp dp sounds like crap

 

I'm a little unsure now, maybe a poll will help me out.

 

dont get the ZZP header...oh so many problems w/ that thing..it hits into the i think it was the coolant line....yep bad design. paul back me up on this one for john

 

That's what I had heard, but another guy here on the forum said that they re-designed it and fits well now and that he would recommend it. So I'm a little hesitant, plus if I go with the XTC DP I want to be able to take advantage of that group buy price...times running out lol.

 

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i dunno if they redesigned it. we put our friends on like 2-3 weeks ago. i go with the XTC downpipe. they sound really good and flow amazing. ill possibly be putting one on my car. yeah kenny sholud possibly making a header soon. talk to badgrl about it.

 

Thanks for all the info.

 

said it months ago, it looks like zzp had the same company make their headers that tog did. whatever company that is, i hope they go out of business soon because they can't design a product for ****.

 

I"m working on the header thing with him.... but not til after the 9th show.... Yeah that ZZP header sucked *****... I did hear they redesigned it... but in my opinion it wasn't that good... the collecoter sucked... the primaries were half blocked by the flange and it just wasn't finished tubes were uneven and didn't come together smoothly.... but it you could clean it up yourself... its not a bad deal.

 

I wonder if the xtc 3inch dp would work with this, guess ill wait for the xtc header.

 

So do you recommend the ZZP header or not? Just a little confused. I think I'm leaning more towards ZZP's header and downpipe though.

 

if they fixed the fitment issues yeah... but go with the XTC Dp.... I havent heard a ZZp dp that sounds good yet

 

You convinced me...I took advantage of the group buy price and ordered the XTC Downpipe. Now just got decide on ZZP's header or Pacesetter's. What do you think about Pacesetter?

 

pacesetter from my experience usually show good gains... but the fitment with them is a bit of a bitch... if you can get an exhaust shop to weld on a flange to match the DP go with it... should be impressed..

 

I can definatly get it welded on at a shop near me...I've been hearing a lot of good about Pacesetter from a lot of members here. Perhaps thats the way to go. Thanks for the help.

 

personally...ive heard the pacesetter exhaust..its sounds so sick..i would go w/ the pacesetter header and XTC downpipe

 

Um....did the xtc headers come out yet????

 

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