Now we're noobs? LOL! I probably have more knowledge and experience modding supercharged cars than you! How are we noobs? K&N has been around for years!
There has been many tests showing that they flow more than stock filters, do a basic search on the internet! Sounds like you're the noob

 

Wait, you must be another noob since you understand the basic idea of a K&N flowing better than a stock filter....

 

I am aware of that. There is a noted difference on any KN style filter being used as a stock replacement. Not making reference to a KN being slapped on at the end of a cold air intake...

Greg

 

Since you're so sure of yourself, where is your actual proof that they don't flow better than stock? You don't even have one on your car, how can you say there's no gain when you haven't even put one on to see for yourself? Sounds like someone is just going along with what other people are saying.....

 

alright guys here is my proof to back up one of my claims. one guy said that he saw a dyno saying that the drop in improved the horsepower 2 and the torque 3. well here is my proof that a dyno is not going to be an exact repeat everytime-

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...ght=dyno+sheet

hmmmm.... 4 hp difference with no change in anything

 

Well since we take a mental note of peoples post counts as a basis of how much experience they have, then I guess so!

 

I agree. It's a simple concept. I can't believe you don't understand why there is more noise from these filters. That noise is more air coming in......

 

no this is what is called RESEARCH. not just looking at K&N's site and going with there claims, THAT ARE MADE TO SELL THERE PRODUCTS!!! ITS CALLED MARKETING!

 

That didn't prove anything. There is always some difference. Heatsoak, IAT's, Temps, ETC.
You're still not proving that a K&N doesn't flow more than a stock filter.

 

or maybe becuase it isnt as baffled, which doesnt mean there is more or less air coming in

 

I suppose you think I should slap on a paper element on my turboed V6?

Greg

PS: I use a K&N on mine!

 

dude i was just showing that because a manufacturer shows a dyno with a 2hp up and 3 ft-lb up doesnt actually mean its making doing that

 

You don't have to look on K&N's site to see airflow results. Just find a flowbench. They can market, but they can't make false claims. If their filters didn't flow better than stock, they would've been suied by now for false claims.

 

yea cuz thats exactly what i said, good job hoss

 

Finally...some people that are knowledgeable.

 

haha would you actually file a claim for $40

 

HUH???

Greg

 

It may contribute to the extra power, it may not. Increased throttle response doesn't mean that there is a huge increase in power. The filter is designed to flow better than stock, and give an increase in throttle response. Both of which I've never seen to not be true. Noone's in here holding you down forcing you to by one. If you don't like them, fine. But don't try to argue saying that they don't do anything.

 

My nOOb self don't comprehend...

Greg

 

i never once said anything about your cougar, i know nothing about them. im talking about the ss which already has an effecient intake setup stock

 

You're all alone on this one hat...give it up man. I guess "all" of us are wrong, and you're right.

 

Thank you!

Greg

 

Shoot, shows your age. People file claims for much cheaper. Do you know how much money you could get proving a million dollar company wrong? Think about it. People sue for all sorts of stupid reasons and get alot of money for it. Not to mention that K&N would lose the right to say "increased air flow, increased throttle response", etc.

 

I have an aftermarket turbo on my SVT Contour. I was asking if you thought that a paper filter would be better than the K&N on my (also very efficient) setup, in your opinion?

Greg

 

im done with you clowns, you waste your money on useless mods, and ill just keep making my car faster, ok peace