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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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that is right... but one of the downfall to this material is that it is strong, but brittle... meaning it is not a very flexible metal, so thats y they break easily... forged pistons can withstand the punishment and heat better without breaking
Yes, there is no argument there. Forged pistons will certainly offer a safety margin when dealing with detonation. When combined with other upgrades and more boost, they have their place.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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I can tell you that some of the port jobs you guys are dynoing aren't very good port jobs. The street port job that I had done to my head gained more than what you guys are posting up. And I'm sending my head back for more porting.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Big question is... did the intake side of the head get ported out?
If it did, your gains will be minimal... just like every other head on the market.

Like Ralli said, many of the port jobs out there aren't very good. If your car is supercharged, you need a supercharged specific port job.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Woah an Omega 5 post.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Woah an Omega 5 post.
Yeah... I lurk.
Been too busy to get on here much anymore.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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you can run a stock balance shaft car past 7500 rpms and the engine live to see another day. the problem is when the rpm's are sustained past that rpm that it becomes a huge engine killing issue
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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well yes they ported my intake side.... but they ported it with like a 100 grit bits... its not really that smooth... now the exhaust is like glass...ill eventually post pics up..... the guys at south florida machine shop have been doin it for a really long time, ive seen there builds on s/c LS motors and they turn out to be beasts... and yes u cannot make the intake too smooth, u will loose some turbulence and not atomise the fuel properly... like i said, they told me if the tune is good, they believe i could see maybe 30+ hp gain... the exhaust ports r mini on this head
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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yes there is also other things that can be holding u back... get ur sc ported( **** the tvs lol.. . only say that cus i want 1 : ( ) get ur intake manifold ported( <both of these will make ur ait2 cooler which can help out a little bit.. on the more top end of a pull. what kinda ratio are u going with the meth??( personaly i would go like 75Meth-25 Water or even more meth... i think i am going like 85-15.. )
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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yes, the car should have made more power. Possibly before and after the dyno. we have dyno'd more than one car with a ported head and done more than one ported head. I was just showing an example. The before an after here is with many changes to exhaust, pulley size, etc. But the idea of gaining 50HP from porting a head just isn't realistic.

On the meth ratio question of what's the best. It's very, very simple. 100% IN THE TANK. If you can't do that, 2nd best is 100% injected somewhere else. The more methanol and the less gas you use, the higher the gains will be. In terms of adding water? Any will reduce the potential for gains and at some mix you'll be losing power. But then again, I've been educating on that for many years. Just so happens that this forum rebels against most of the good information.

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I've often heard that zzp is the last company you want serious tech advice from.
It's been echo'd here often. That's probably why not many people know much about the cars or are very fast. It's why ZZP took nearly every HP and ET record within only a few months of trying. i suspect things are changing though and shortly as people catch on, 12's and 300WHP M62 will be quite normal. I just hope people don't forget the battle ZZP will have faught to bring people there...
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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I have no problems with ZZP breaking **** to find out what works. It's not my car
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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and ppl say we cant get 300 out of the m62 i think it possible
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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its possible a few people have done it but the problem is soo many people wont go further than bolt on parts and expect 300whp
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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just wondering cuz i guess i missed that post u made or something.. wut where u running on that 300 hp m62 that ran 12s?? and wut were the exact times???
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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you do not need a ported head to hit 300whp with an m62. just a set of ***** to push it hard enough and not worry about the outcome
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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so wut would u need.... wut pulley size?? for sure meth... intake header exhaust.... 60lb inj.. wut else??
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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most people won't run it lean enough, or that high in the timing table to do it. so the ported head is an easy way out to do it.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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you dont need 300hp to run 12's, and more mods make hp wasier
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
On the meth ratio question of what's the best. It's very, very simple. 100% IN THE TANK. If you can't do that, 2nd best is 100% injected somewhere else. The more methanol and the less gas you use, the higher the gains will be. In terms of adding water? Any will reduce the potential for gains and at some mix you'll be losing power. But then again, I've been educating on that for many years. Just so happens that this forum rebels against most of the good information.
isnt 100% meth corrosive?
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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yeah from what i know of it cant handle 100%..
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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We're over 320WHP on a stock M62 with stock head/cams and running rich.
60's, BRFP, AC delete, electric WP, ZZP 15 row HE, 1 pass IC, 2.6" -NO METH-

We have another in the works as Ryan's car wasn't really meant for all out M62 performance. We were just testing parts. The next one will be over 350WHP with ease I estimate from seeing how this did and we didn't even get to test all our mods. It's in Tim's Saturn. I'd love to shoot for 400WHP M62 but I don't think it's realistic. Not unless someone on the team comes up with something we haven't thought of yet...

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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320...not too shabby
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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whats brfp
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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whats brfp
Big Red ******* ***** i guess
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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i dont wanna doubt u, but that seems a little outta reach... on a stock m62 with no meth
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