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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Prob asked a million times but

What can I get for an Sc that wont void anything.

I have stage 2, and a exhaust.

I know they have a monifold
Any Hp add there?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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cold air intake

and a tune
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Sorry, Im new to this car thing, never had a good car to work on before the cobalt.

Whats a tune?
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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cold air intake

and a tune
one of these will void a powertrain warranty, one will not

just get an intake if you're concerned with keeping it
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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um...well its a tune changes the computer and such for more hp and you can change A/F ratios like when you change pulleys or injectors
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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one of these will void a powertrain warranty, one will not

just get an intake if you're concerned with keeping it
not true at all.........u can get a reflash when u need to bring it in for warranty work

a tune is just reprogramming you ECM to get more out of it....

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um...well its a tune changes the computer and such for more hp and you can change A/F ratios like when you change pulleys or injectors...u got a s/c or n/a?
reading is > you jk

hes got a sc

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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not true at all.........u can get a reflash when u need to bring it in for warranty work

a tune is just reprogramming you ECM to get more out of it....



reading is > you jk

hes got a sc
And your dealer can see that it has been flashed. Warranty = void.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
um...well its a tune changes the computer and such for more hp and you can change A/F ratios like when you change pulleys or injectors
06 sc
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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dammit I know!! lol right after I posted it I was like ..**** he said he had stage 2 lol my b
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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And your dealer can see that it has been flashed. Warranty = void.
this is false..........plus they do not look for these things.......they hook it up to a machine and see if it passes the tests and if it does they work on it

this is per a mechanic at a local nissan dealarship........he has no reason to lie about that
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Actually the dealer can void your warranty for an intake. My buddy blew his engine and they said it was because of the after market intake.. lol

Anything that the dealer installs they will more than likely warranty, it is expensive but if you are worried, thats what you have to do.

ECM flash will void you warranty too.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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he also works in a chevy dealershop as well

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Actually the dealer can void your warranty for an intake. My buddy blew his engine and they said it was because of the after market intake.. lol

Anything that the dealer installs they will more than likely warranty, it is expensive but if you are worried, thats what you have to do.

ECM flash will void you warranty too.
so take the intake off before you go in for warranty work?

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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warrenties are not voided due to aftermarket parts unless the parts were the cause of the damage.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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intake and cat-back exhaust is all u can really do and keep ur warranty. a tune WILL void your warranty if they find it.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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intake and cat-back exhaust is all u can really do and keep ur warranty. a tune WILL void your warranty if they find it.
if they find it........which they wont if you flash it back to factory before you bring it it.....
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Tank07
this is false..........plus they do not look for these things.......they hook it up to a machine and see if it passes the tests and if it does they work on it

this is per a mechanic at a local nissan dealarship........he has no reason to lie about that
i forget what there sn was but there was a post about GM that stated that GM is going to start checking cars for tunes that come in for warranty work. it was someone who works for GM i think it MIGHT have been Maven im not sure though
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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if they find it........which they wont if you flash it back to factory before you bring it it.....
No, they can still see that the ECU has been flashed.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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No, they can still see that the ECU has been flashed.
where did you get this info?

scratch last post.........im 99% sure though this isnt the case.......like i said i have a family friend that works at a stealership and helps me with my car all the time when i run into jams..........he said they will not look for it at all, and cannot tell if its been reflashed

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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if they find it........which they wont if you flash it back to factory before you bring it it.....
i heard they can find that it was reflashed and find out that it was tuned.
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You can't flash an exact GM tune, you can just set the same parameters. The numbers will be off.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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if u rele need the warranty and rather be safe then sorry dont get the tune

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You can't flash an exact GM tune, you can just set the same parameters. The numbers will be off.
u can save the orignal file from the car..

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by red06SC
You can't flash an exact GM tune, you can just set the same parameters. The numbers will be off.
thats what i was thinking of thank you for finding that
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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HPT can not reflash under the same serial numbers or some nonsense like that. It will be a GM tune, but it will be labeled differently.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by red06SC
HPT can not reflash under the same serial numbers or some nonsense like that. It will be a GM tune, but it will be labeled differently.
well thanks for clarifying that lol

so just stick with the intake OP
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Yeah, Im not gonna risk voiding it.

So i'll stay with the intake.

And take that off whenever I take it to GM for anything.
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