why a 75 tho? 20k rpm to get max boost seems a little iffy to gear to.

- Solo

 

Because it fits and can run 22psi with a 3.1" pulley for us less modded guys.

For the big builds like victory red SS could bennefit from a W100AX, but it would require a custom intake manifold if he wants to use a bypass valve and make it fit under the hood.

 

I think so too but maybe he can prove us wrong. For that money I would've just went turbo only. I mean think about it...the 2.4 intake could easily be fabbed to fit the LSJ for under a grand I bet, and you could piece together a turbo kit with a custom manifold, downpipe, and what not for probably less than $2500. If I had all that money that's what I would've done.

 

I hear alot of people use those same words, I bet, probably, could have, should have, would have, if, maybe. I talked to prfessionals, I got lots of advice, I researched and in the end I didn't choose just a turbo. It is a whole lot more expensive getting someone to do something once, as apposed to having someone plan to make many of the same thing.
Most of the money I am spending is going into the engine to support what ever I throw at it. The turbo charger companies are designing twincharged kits for a reason and not a "just throw away your supercharger and bolt on a turbo kits". Add to that mix that I was fortunate enough to be the first doing what I am doing, building a killer engine to "handle" major boost. This allows companies a safe engine to test their kit on and gives me the benifit of getting products at very reduced cost. Turbonetics are very pleased that this engine is built for them to test new waters, even if they are only the suppliers of the turbo at this point. The twincharged part of my build is actually the least expensive part of this project because, for the companies I am dealing with, I am the first. This car will be on the race track on weekends and it will be pushed very hard.
Now some people will benifit from my experiences, both good and bad, and others who think there is a better way should just show us that way by doing it. There is a saying about being a mule from missouri, don't tell me, show me.

 

While I agree you are spending too much money on this car , I disagree with the fact that you shouldn't do it. I mean hell if you have the resources open this market up and do something with it. Personally I would of bought something already ***** fast but then you wouldn't be having all the fun and excitement of being a pioneer for this car. So do what you do but if it is putting you in a financial pinch you should think twice.

 

I am glad a lot of people wouldn't do this with their Cobalt. Allows me to have a unique car. And the money is just sitting there waiting for the bills to come in. Now if people who benifit from what is learned\designed by the companies I am dealing with a contribution to the victory_red_SS gas and tire fund wouldn't be turned down.

 

To me, the most important part is how do you plan on hooking this kind of power up to the ground!!?? Please don't be like the typical ricer and runa 2.0 60' and 12.0@120


Great project none the less!

 

Yeah, what kind of suspension upgrades do you have planned for this? The car sounds like an awesome project and part of the fun of it is doing something no one else has. I would like to see how the car runs at the track with a set of slicks and a whole bunch of suspension upgrades to just slingshit the car out of the hole.

 

cars are a hobby, and hobbies cost money (some more than others). i think that (as long as he aint livin in the cardboard box on the corner, struggling to eat 3 meals a day, and providing for his family-if he has one) he should spend as much money on the car as he wants. **** i kno i would if i could afford to. i cant wait to get a real job after college and spend $80,000 on a car to get to my end goal, while going thru all the installations and problems and the cursing while stayin up till 3am just to get that next piece installed.

its a disease but one im happy to have. lucky some of my friends arent so broke so i get to play with their cars in the mean time

 

Right now the plan is to do engine & transmission mounts, poly cab's, hopefully the traction bars that we have just seen, adjustable coilovers to adjust the height of the rear end and as big of a tire (likely drag radials) as I can get on the car.
Now on this subject advice is welcome.
As for doing anything in the 12 second range well that has been done so I plan to leave that up to you as you show others how to get their Cobalts to those great times.

I have had it suggested that slicks might not agree with the transmission which is why d\r's will be used at first.

House is paid, kids are grown and the wife is great for being okay with this.

 

Thanks for the update victory_red_SS. Although I'm far away from attempting anything like you are (buying a house atm), I love reading your updates. I think alot of LSJ owners are going to be thanking you for alot of new/exciting products to come from your project. I'm anxious to hear more info on the twincharge setup when available. As always keep us updated.

P.S. I hope you saved some cash for a nice digital camera for some pics and vids of the car when you're done!

 

sounds good.... pave the way

 

Sport Compact Magazine has offered to come up to do a tested feature of my car and they just need to know when it will be done so they can come to take pictures and test the car on the drag strip. This gets more fun all the time.

 

VIC RED SS, all I gots to say is your car is going to be awesome! can't wait. It's giving me hope for future modifications.

 

-------"before someone tells me about the R\L or Keith Losier' twincharged cars they are not the same. Twincharged did not build out his engine and Losier doesn't drive that show car farther than trailer to trailer for car shows. This car will be on the race track on weekends and it will be pushed very hard."---------


Victory anytime your car is done, u name the dragstrip and i have a RHD twincharged that will spank your car interior and 20'' rims aand all

all the talk about on and off a trailer? you dont know me very well do you?

come check out the clutch i have blown out from no traction with 20x10 245/30/20 tires and 1st, 2nd, 3rd rubber all the way down from testing and messing around.... and im running a bully stage 3 and fidanza flywheel as well

my car is def far from finished but i drive my car every weekend and when we cruise around

im sorry that my car is at shows all over the country showing off what we have done and trying to get more projects and everything else.

Please dont go off stating things you do not know especially about a car you know really nothing about.

Once my fuel system is done, i will have a very realistic car to take to the track.

i drive my cars, come check them out, the front ends all chipped up, the sides and wheel wells full of rubber as well.

ill make a video next time we are out for you guys to check it out.

great job on the build, sounds like its going to be a great vehicle.

Who from Primedia told you they were going to be shooting your car for the mag? I know alot of them from all the shows and Drag events we have been doing for years now.

Dont be fooled by the show car it will come and take you by suprise.

Good luck, just had to chime in.

 

It's about time I heard from you. Sorry for the assumption about you not racing your car. That car looked too tricked out for racing.I have looked for info on it and other than the posted articles that were up for a while I can't find anything. I also remember someone saying that some of what was in the show cars weren't completely functional. If I had been able to get a hold of you I am sure you could have given me lots of advice and direction.
There is no doubt about the looks of your car, it is awesome as are the other projects you have done. I neither have the skill nor sponsors to put something like that together. If I recall correctly because or your talent GM gave you the Cobalt to create your masterpiece. I have had one heck of a time trying to just get technical advice from GM Performance.
I am trying to get the wife to go along with the idea of trailering my car to Toronto next year and I would be happy to meet up with you, perhaps race. As an old fart compared to you, my money is in the go. My car will be nice to look at but nothing compared to yours in a show.

 

Would it be possible that you start your own thread and put up some pictures and details of your car?? I think a lot of us would enjoy seeing what you have done. I wish more of the people with cars like yours would be on the forums, but when you modify cars for a living, maybe it isn't very interesting to them.

 

victory im almost 29 now gettin up there.

been 11yrs doing this now, the car is def more show then go, but we have been playing around trying to find new things to come up with to make the go even better.

once we are finished our standalone and fuel i think we will be in good pace to have something very cool to play with

keep me posted, if u have any questions feel free to ask, i have every GM resource available from engineers to sales/marketing for the Performance upgrades.

we are building a solstice that will be in the mid to high 500hp range as we speak with full GM performance parts, turbonetics turbo, stand alone computer as well as tons of other things with this little beast.

 

wow I've been waiting for you to show up on these updates since he started his project.

are you guys think of doing a V8 swap in the Solstic? or are you going to modify the factory motor?

 

I'll have my twincharger built this spring...I gonna run the rice times of 12.5@115 lol on pump gas...tho ill have drag slicks, jbp cabs, and traction bars...so maybe i wont run rice times?

Budget twincharger ftw! trying to keep it under 1600

 

I'll be trying to keep my twincharge under 2k.

 

it looks like you two are going to try to twincharge without building your internal, in which case you not going for big numbers at all.

personally your probably better off just doing bolt ons and smaller pulley, even that will be more then 2K + tuning.

twincharging is much more complicated, it's not just a matter of adding a turbo, and new piping, and repositioning the intake. I beleive your asking for truble and getting in over your head if you really think you'll be able to do it for under 2K.

either way, I'd be interested to here what your plans are, Good luck

 

ok

ya i know ive started to be cocky and a lot more arrogant lately and this is why...people posting doubt on stuff they really know nothing about...iirc u just posted that the stock ss/sc wheels are forged...they are not...if this wasnt u i apologize.

I've researched it thoroughly and it can be done within my budget constraints ( i aint paying 850 on a new turbo...ill junkyard and rebuild it)...but realize i already have 60lbers and hptuners and wideband, I know how to tune, and I have invested plenty of time into research...I just need to make the moeny to try it.

I just duplicated my setup on a cobalt...i trap 109 fyi...he has 700 into it...if he had to buy the hptuners and wideband itd add like 800...1500 still leaves 500

I only have 3k into my car including my all alpine system

Dan

 

I believe player_1 was saying that on that budget you are not going for a high output twincharged setup. Can you do it? With the right know how, probably but not for the type of gains one could see. Because you are doing this for as little as possible it easy to guess that you are not willing to blow a piston and have to pay for a new engine. It is likely you are aiming for #'s just under twincharged's.

 

im going for 350ish whp on pump gas

I feel the motor can take more than that...I have my reasons for believing it but that would be a long ass post

Also I'm picking up a spare lsj minus intake stuff for 500...I hope to build it and not have to swap it in blowing up the original lol.

Honestly anything over 350whp...esp with near instant spool...on a street car that is fwd is insane...and that'll be enough power for low 12s...high 11s with enough traction