Well i was thinkin about this last night before i went to bed, and You guys prolly have seen the pics of how the Air filter is right next to the engine and wut not, well i was thinkin, Wut if we put like a Y-pipe or T-pipe just after the supercharger to have it running to the turbocharger ti have that intake but then at the other pipe have it run down to where our stock air filter is now to bring in some cooler air to mix with the warm air coming from the fiter next to the engine, then it would be sen thru the SC and cooled thru the Heat exchanger. DO you thinks this would be Benifical or anything? or atleast a good idea? I was jsut wondering. And i'd like to hear everyones opinons on this even if u do have a smart ass comment. they dont bother me like they do some ppl. Thx

 

Am I the only one not getting what you are saying??

 

Prolly not, basically, im saying, you have the intake coming off the SC, adn then it splits, One pipe too the Stock Location for cooler air, and the other pipe to the Turbo that is sucking hot air from the engine bay's Filter. If u seen the Twin charge set up pic, u should kno where they have the filter located

 

um i second that y is ther a filter after the supercharger...

 

I get what your saying. Don't know how much of a difference it would make in temperature. Not sure how that would affect things since the Turbo is sending air to the Blower, plus the blower will be pulling in its own.

 

Not after the supercharger, Just before it. Ok, starting at the Filter before the turbo, it goes from there thru the turbo on its way to the SC, but before it is connected to the throttle Body on the SC, theres a T-pipe, with a Intake pipe going to out stock Location to bring in Cooler air then the turbo charger is pulling in. i would think that the air from the stock location would cool the air the turbocharger is sucking in a lil bit but also give us more air to bring in then just out of the engine bay.

BUMP. can nobody else Imagine wut this looks like. Its so easy. o well, when i kit the Twin charger kit when its available i'll just have to test this and have it dyno'd before and after. then i'll be the only one with a Dual intake, If it makes a difference. If it dont, i'll jsut keep the single. But im pretty sure that would be benifical.

BUMP!!! Does no body understand wut im trying to say??

 

I understand I just don't think all that extra piping is worth it imo.

I don't think anyone else understands because they don't have them Flint-town Browns

 

wuts that supposed to mean? Flint town Browns? if its wut i think, i sold way better then that. for good prices. But, its not much extra piping, just down to the stock location, The pipe breaks off in too 2 inlets. get wut im saying. im not on crack either. im 17 with a creative mind.

 

I was just saying that if you have two inlets you waste a lot more energy trying to match the outlet psi (of both units). Opposed to using one to cram air down the other. I just don't think the power increase would be worth all the effort to make that work.

 

The biggest thing you're totally forgetting is...

Pressure Drop.

Remember, a filter has holes in it...holes means that air can escape instead of being held together...that will drop pressure.

Also, the source of air for a turbocharged setup is through the opening of the compressor housing. All this piping and filtering stuff is just a waste.

 

ok. well, i guess that kills that idea. Should i just delete this thread then or leave it open?

 

It's up to you.

What's funny is that my friend Chris asked me the same thing days ago...he has a 2.2 S/C ECOTEC lol

 

thats kool, so wuts up with the whole pressure drop thing?? when u lot off the throttle air escapes faster so longer response to gettin air into the Cylinders?? i've never heard of that problem before. My idea was to have the Second intake at the stock location to bring in some cooler air to cool the other air thats getting sucked in from the turbo

 

That's the job of the blow off valve but understand that the blow off valve opens and closes for a reason. It doesn't stay constantly open. If it did, you'd have a pressure drop and air would be escaping through it constantly...that's what would happen with the filter.

You have to understand that with forced induction, it's main purpose is to send pressurized air to the throttle body and into the combustion chamber. It's only pressurized if it's contained. If there are any holes or areas for air to escape into the atomosphere, it would reduce the amount of pressure in the intake track.

Example: Imagine a hose that is spraying water. Now poke a hole in the line. Now you wouldn't have as much water coming out the end and the pressure isn't going to be as strong.

See what I mean?

 

Yea i got ya. Also i kno wut the B.O.V is for, but i kno u explained it for an example and that some ppl dont kno wut it is for. But thx. I wont waste any extra cash or time on it then.

 

It's alright.

Also, another thing...incase you didn't know...

An air to air intercooler could actually cause you to have a drop in pressure depending on the design of the intercooler (...how well it's designed). The higher efficient intercoolers have a less boost pressure drop. Some can see as low as 1, 2, 3 PSI drop because of their intercoolers.

 

thx, i didnt kno that. My thing is, im not sure wut i want to do, twin charge or Full turbo. Its to hard to decide. and either way, i dont want to do anything else to the balt because i can save the money and put it towards the turbo kit or wut ever.

 

In my opinion...full turbo setup.

I don't want to start up some heated argument but IN MY OPINION having the supercharger isn't benefiting anything.

 

yea, i think everyone knos how one's opinon on wut they LIKE, can turn in to a Huge E-battle. lol. But, right now im so strapped on cash. I keep speeding cash on the g/f. she tells me not to, But i love her so much i love to buy her things. its a recent thing i started to do. and i want to take her to a few concerts of her fav. bands which i like also. but i need to get $600 to pay off my tickets so i can get my license back. Im lookin for a job, for the past 3 months, and nothing. it blows.

 

Trust me, don't spoil women...you want to share the wealth selectively because one day they will EXPECT it. That's not good.

 

thats true. but she isnt like that. and i kno wut ur thinking, She might not act it but ur right, if i do it regularly, she will expect it. but i jsut bought her some earrings a braclet and necklace. then valentines day, dark chocolate, a CD she wanted, and a card. i think thats enought for a while. but shes bought me stuff. so i thought i owed it to her. on another note, I believe that me nad this gurl will be together for a very long time. we're very open, never argue, I was her first for Everything that we've done. She makes me happy. so i like to buy her things. but i'll stop. cuz of the point u made. which was good. lol. thx

Im off to bed tho, i will reply to wut ever advice u got for me tomorrow. haha. nice chattin with ya, Night

 

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