Questions 2.8, 60's, intake
Questions 2.8, 60's, intake
So I have a few questions about my build I am putting together in my head and plan on buying within the next few weeks here.
Mod's Current to my car:
GM stage 2, 2.9 pulley, GMPP Manifold, GMPP Exhaust, Injen CIA.
Build
I am wanting to drop down to 2.8 pulley size and add 60lb injectors, and Install a ZZP Heat exchanger(possibly dual pass), and a tune.
-Is there any other mods I should worry about getting to support this build?
-If I were to drop to a 2.7 how unsafe would that be cooling wise with just running a heat exchanger and dual pass.
-Is the GMPP manifold with stock DP sufficient to support the 2.8 or should I get a catless DP to open things up?
Thanks in advanced to anyone that shoots me advice
Mod's Current to my car:
GM stage 2, 2.9 pulley, GMPP Manifold, GMPP Exhaust, Injen CIA.
Build
I am wanting to drop down to 2.8 pulley size and add 60lb injectors, and Install a ZZP Heat exchanger(possibly dual pass), and a tune.
-Is there any other mods I should worry about getting to support this build?
-If I were to drop to a 2.7 how unsafe would that be cooling wise with just running a heat exchanger and dual pass.
-Is the GMPP manifold with stock DP sufficient to support the 2.8 or should I get a catless DP to open things up?
Thanks in advanced to anyone that shoots me advice
Last edited by RA040424; Oct 12, 2009 at 04:22 AM.
One thing to note with a catless downpipe is that your exhaust is going to sound a hell of a lot raspier. I have had a lot of different exhaust systems on the lsj and no matter what they are all raspy without a cat lol.
Currently running a catless cai header and downpipe with a hahn racecraft catback and above 3k roughly there is a decent amount of rasp.
The cat only kills 2-3whp if that, but it would make your exhaust sound a hell of a lot better. If your car is a daily driver and you don't need each and every whp then I highly recommend getting a cat.
Also though a cat is a restriction of airflow and it will create more boost which is not good. All boost is, is a restriction of airflow. Boost is not power, remember that with your build.
Currently running a catless cai header and downpipe with a hahn racecraft catback and above 3k roughly there is a decent amount of rasp.
The cat only kills 2-3whp if that, but it would make your exhaust sound a hell of a lot better. If your car is a daily driver and you don't need each and every whp then I highly recommend getting a cat.
Also though a cat is a restriction of airflow and it will create more boost which is not good. All boost is, is a restriction of airflow. Boost is not power, remember that with your build.
One thing to note with a catless downpipe is that your exhaust is going to sound a hell of a lot raspier. I have had a lot of different exhaust systems on the lsj and no matter what they are all raspy without a cat lol.
Currently running a catless cai header and downpipe with a hahn racecraft catback and above 3k roughly there is a decent amount of rasp.
The cat only kills 2-3whp if that, but it would make your exhaust sound a hell of a lot better. If your car is a daily driver and you don't need each and every whp then I highly recommend getting a cat.
Also though a cat is a restriction of airflow and it will create more boost which is not good. All boost is, is a restriction of airflow. Boost is not power, remember that with your build.
Currently running a catless cai header and downpipe with a hahn racecraft catback and above 3k roughly there is a decent amount of rasp.
The cat only kills 2-3whp if that, but it would make your exhaust sound a hell of a lot better. If your car is a daily driver and you don't need each and every whp then I highly recommend getting a cat.
Also though a cat is a restriction of airflow and it will create more boost which is not good. All boost is, is a restriction of airflow. Boost is not power, remember that with your build.
Last edited by RA040424; Oct 12, 2009 at 04:31 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
i just put on ZZPs 3" inch catless downpipe, and 3" cat back and i would say compared to stock it was ummmmmm 400% louder. lol. it is pretty raspy especially during acceleration but you get use to it and it sounds pretty bad ass.
tip- for fun i started it without the catback on and i **** myself so i wouldnt suggest it. lol
tip- for fun i started it without the catback on and i **** myself so i wouldnt suggest it. lol
How much do you want for them, because I am getting ready to send someone 115 for 60's today and 40 for a 2.8. Let me know because if yours is gonna be cheaper I am definately down
How much boost are you seeing and what HP are you sitting at?
Haha I will keep that in mind, but hot damn 400% louder! haha
i just put on ZZPs 3" inch catless downpipe, and 3" cat back and i would say compared to stock it was ummmmmm 400% louder. lol. it is pretty raspy especially during acceleration but you get use to it and it sounds pretty bad ass.
tip- for fun i started it without the catback on and i **** myself so i wouldnt suggest it. lol
tip- for fun i started it without the catback on and i **** myself so i wouldnt suggest it. lol
Last edited by RA040424; Oct 12, 2009 at 02:53 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
One thing to note with a catless downpipe is that your exhaust is going to sound a hell of a lot raspier. I have had a lot of different exhaust systems on the lsj and no matter what they are all raspy without a cat lol.
Currently running a catless cai header and downpipe with a hahn racecraft catback and above 3k roughly there is a decent amount of rasp.
The cat only kills 2-3whp if that, but it would make your exhaust sound a hell of a lot better. If your car is a daily driver and you don't need each and every whp then I highly recommend getting a cat.
Also though a cat is a restriction of airflow and it will create more boost which is not good. All boost is, is a restriction of airflow. Boost is not power, remember that with your build.
Currently running a catless cai header and downpipe with a hahn racecraft catback and above 3k roughly there is a decent amount of rasp.
The cat only kills 2-3whp if that, but it would make your exhaust sound a hell of a lot better. If your car is a daily driver and you don't need each and every whp then I highly recommend getting a cat.
Also though a cat is a restriction of airflow and it will create more boost which is not good. All boost is, is a restriction of airflow. Boost is not power, remember that with your build.
OP stay 2.8 or above, i've seen 2.8 cars make more power than 2.7s. your engine will thank you.
Last edited by Mnatvyc1223; Oct 13, 2009 at 12:42 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
High flow cats do not restrict flow much more past ~2-3hp...
resonators are awesome..
2.7 will have a little better tq down low... but more power is more stress on the engine anyway... so its all up to you..
resonators are awesome..
2.7 will have a little better tq down low... but more power is more stress on the engine anyway... so its all up to you..

try a resonator with no cat, eliminates the raspiness and doesnt restrict exhaust flow nearly as much as a cat would. just a little fyi. fukk you can even have 2 if one doesnt cut it.
OP stay 2.8 or above, i've seen 2.8 cars make more power than 2.7s. your engine will thank you.
OP stay 2.8 or above, i've seen 2.8 cars make more power than 2.7s. your engine will thank you.
Last edited by RA040424; Oct 13, 2009 at 10:39 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
So Heat exchanger, dual pass, and option B.
Can someone explain option B to me?
Option B does not offer any performance gain. It more or less is just a way to help the car bleed the air out of the intercooler system that gets trapped when you drain the coolant from the system to install the dual pass plate.
You can do it without option B, it's just harder to bleed air from the system.
I'd do a flow through box before I'd spend the money on Option B.
You can do it without option B, it's just harder to bleed air from the system.
I'd do a flow through box before I'd spend the money on Option B.


