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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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yeah meth would be a definat upgrade with the tvs if ur talking about iat's being high. also u can invest in an icebox and drop ice before your run starts... before u get to the top of the stage lane.
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 05:43 PM
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Rodimus, you still haven't answered my question about methanol injection yet. Are you running it or not?
I believe he his actually
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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320\250 isnt really good enough reason to stick with a tvs

i like a nice looking engine bay setup and the zzp just looks homemade i dont put homemade parts on my car

if dual scroll is what it takes im open to that
I guess you really don't have any idea of what can be extracted from the car with this blower on it. It doesn't even cost much. In any case, I wish you luck with your branching off into the turbo realm eventually. I have family in the harrisburg area that I haven't seen in a while. I'll look you up once your build is done, and we'll see if you were successful meeting your goals, and if it was worth it.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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yea i have meth injection

Turbo is def the route i want to go
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Where the hell do you have it spraying at then, what jet size, and what is your mix? Just not seeing how it wouldn't keep the TVS cool and allow you to crank up the timing if it's setup right.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Sub'd for some of the same questions as the OP
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Another thing to consider if you are really concerned about iat and iat2's at the track is the killerchiller. This is by far the best cooling mod for the track hands down.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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no point in offering suggestions. He's already given up on the tvs.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Yea, I'm pretty much convinced the Hahn Turbo is the route I want to go Level 5 it is!
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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I just don't get it.... my M62 is supposed to make higher IAT's than the TVS since I run a 2.6. My scans going from 2.6/m62 up to 80mm/tvs show a drop in temps at cruise and idle w/ no other changes than the blower.

So what is the root cause of Rodimus' problem? I'm not convinced it's the blower itself. Even now, w/o meth, w/o dual pass, only secondary garret h/e+intercooler reservoir upgrade+distilled h2o, I have not the same problems as you do Rodimus.

Just confused to the cause
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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my pulls in third don't get over 140 on a 90* day. I'm kind of confused myself. But he's already thinking turbo.
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathscythe
no point in offering suggestions. He's already given up on the tvs.
yup. and the key words from a previous post :"if he is set up right". aintgonnahappen.com
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Old Aug 29, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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not surprised. His sig pretty much speaks for itself.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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Well Rodimus, if you are going to unload your TVS in the future for a decent price, let me know.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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Well what possibly isnt set up right? Enlighten me.

The methanol helps but its never been more than a band aid, in fact I actually made more hp with it off than on even with the knock on a dyno pull

im running a 315ml nozzle
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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god could this website run any slower
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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I take i t a 315ml jet equates to the M3 jet in a Devil's Own kit. With that said, you need to kick it up a notch to the M5 or 500ml jet, have it spray into the intake before the TB (if you don't already), and set it come in around 8psi. Meth is not a band aid if used right and I have a ton of experience tuning it and using it during the summer. I'm sure it gets a lot hotter and humind down in South Carolina than it does in PA, and after back to back pulls on the interstate I can place my hand on the blower without fear of it burning. That is on the 2.6" on the M62, and it usually has a nice sweat on it like a water bottle does after it comes out of the refrigerator. I tuned a 2.7 pullied M62 before I left on a pretty warm day and got 25* timing with just windshield washer fluid instead of real meth. IAT2's never got above 132* after back to back 3rd gear pulls during the tuning.

You do not get power from adding meth, you get power by using it to tune your car in better. More specifically adding timing and killing knock. Keep the air fuel around 11.6-11.8 and get that timing up around 21-25* where it is needed and you will see a nice jump with your setup while diminishing heat soak between pulls down to nothing.
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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You take it wrong, 315ml is a m5 or m6. I was using a 550cc nozzle, thats rated for 400-600hp or M8.7.

I'm already running 21-25 degrees with no knock with an AFR of 11.6-11.8. Heatsoak is there regardless of timing or AFR
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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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2k5, the humidity is much worse up north than you think. More than likely that's what he's dealing with. If you were to come down here, you'd notice a difference. Everytime I go home to new york city, my car feels a bit more sluggish up there. but just in the summertime. I've got family in south carolina that I go to visit on a regular basis, and the car wakes up when I'm down there. Humidity makes a difference.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 01:46 AM
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2k5, the humidity is much worse up north than you think. More than likely that's what he's dealing with. If you were to come down here, you'd notice a difference. Everytime I go home to new york city, my car feels a bit more sluggish up there. but just in the summertime. I've got family in south carolina that I go to visit on a regular basis, and the car wakes up when I'm down there. Humidity makes a difference.
I'm from New Hampshire and have been all over the place up north so I do understand.

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You take it wrong, 315ml is a m5 or m6. I was using a 550cc nozzle, thats rated for 400-600hp or M8.7.

I'm already running 21-25 degrees with no knock with an AFR of 11.6-11.8. Heatsoak is there regardless of timing or AFR
Thank you for the info on your jet size and I'm sorry for making the assumption your jet is too small. Could you please post your entire mod list so I can what your really working with then?

If you do decide Hahn is the route you want to go, I wish you the best of luck. There is no denying that turbocharging is the easier route to make power. Hell my Integra is proof of that and I love what it has to offer with just its tiny EVO III 16g.

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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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are you back home yet?
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 03:07 AM
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Nope, still stuck in Asscrackistan. Got some stuff I'm working off to the side though in preparation for when I return though.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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when are you due back?
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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October some time hopefully. Integra will get some love first, and then the Cobalt will recieve it's long overdue treatment.
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Old Aug 31, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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wheres some pics of the hahn kit my searched havent yeilded much
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