Rebel Auto Worxs Twin Screw tuning session and Video
07-24-2007, 11:12 PM
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And what size exhaust does one have to buy? 3 inch? I have a plan in mind if a 3 inch is what is needed.
So no seeing 400whp out of these blwoers huh? That is a shame, I would have loved to have that much HP out of a SC.
And are you all going to be making smaller pullies for this thing? I would suspect small pullies would get close to that 400whp mark.
If this thing makes over 300whp stock, I DEFINITELY want this thing!! And if it can bolt up to a 2.4, I will go find a 2.4L and buy the crap outta it!
07-24-2007, 11:15 PM
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You can't compare cars with different setups on differents dynos. However, I give my best congratulations for Rebel AutoWorks for that setup ! Can't wait to see how it will produce when removing all exhaust restriction. 
07-24-2007, 11:22 PM
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I saw the thread the turbo blat was at 403 i think and was on stock internals and everything except clutch.
I think this kit is ment for the average joe that wants a quik hp jump with a little room for improvement. Not the weekly track goers that want to constantly go up in hp. For me this would be perfect if its relativly inexspensive I and a lot of other people here would be happy with high 12's
I think this kit is ment for the average joe that wants a quik hp jump with a little room for improvement. Not the weekly track goers that want to constantly go up in hp. For me this would be perfect if its relativly inexspensive I and a lot of other people here would be happy with high 12's
07-24-2007, 11:32 PM
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07-24-2007, 11:40 PM
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you just owned tag
07-24-2007, 11:41 PM
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i thought that the 2.0 ecotec engine couldn't handle 300whp? My friend said that the TS would obviously eliminate the heat vs the eaton but he said that the psi lvls were lower therefore not as hard on the pistons. Is this true, i just don't wanna blow my engine and/or pistons. Any feedback please would be great. (oh yea i didnt read all of the thread cuz i'm lazy, so i'm sorry if this was addressed already)
07-25-2007, 12:21 AM
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Dude, back off. He didn't read it all, if you didn't have much ncie to say, why jump on his ass. Why not help him out? He may not understand all the technical stuff I know I don't all the time.
Yo Pete, evidentally this thing will be running at 20psi, more than the stock, or the stage 2. But, it said something like, it will make low 300 something HP. And with full header back exhaust, it will make 300s, then with smaller pullies, mid 300s. Evidentally no 400s, I could be wrong though.
Yes you should, if you don't know, you should ask.
Yo Pete, evidentally this thing will be running at 20psi, more than the stock, or the stage 2. But, it said something like, it will make low 300 something HP. And with full header back exhaust, it will make 300s, then with smaller pullies, mid 300s. Evidentally no 400s, I could be wrong though.
Yes you should, if you don't know, you should ask.
07-25-2007, 12:43 AM
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07-25-2007, 12:47 AM
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i thought that the 2.0 ecotec engine couldn't handle 300whp? My friend said that the TS would obviously eliminate the heat vs the eaton but he said that the psi lvls were lower therefore not as hard on the pistons. Is this true, i just don't wanna blow my engine and/or pistons. Any feedback please would be great. (oh yea i didnt read all of the thread cuz i'm lazy, so i'm sorry if this was addressed already)
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
07-25-2007, 12:50 AM
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It has been observed that the LSJ cannot handle 300WHP with the M62 (Stock blower), if you are trying to achieve those numbers by using small pullies which take the M62 way out of it's efficiency range. When using a more efficient setup, ie this twin screw the LSJ will be able to make more power under less strain due to the higher efficiency of the compressor.
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
07-25-2007, 01:02 AM
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The cost of the kit will be somewhere around $3000-3500US, remember it comes with a dual pass setup, bypass valve and ability to easily run water/meth or nitrous after the SC.
Here's some kits to compare the price to:
http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...hp?cPath=60_89
As for the origins of this kit, Mase came to us for some help, we thought it was a great idea so we put in our knowledge and resources to get it done fast. I would have to give a lot of credit to the guy as he did a lot on his own.
Here's some kits to compare the price to:
http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...hp?cPath=60_89
As for the origins of this kit, Mase came to us for some help, we thought it was a great idea so we put in our knowledge and resources to get it done fast. I would have to give a lot of credit to the guy as he did a lot on his own.
07-25-2007, 01:04 AM
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i want. and we need to hear from someone if this is the old tag project.
Damn. i asked the question and it was answered before i got done asking. damn
Damn. i asked the question and it was answered before i got done asking. damn
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07-25-2007, 01:05 AM
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It has been observed that the LSJ cannot handle 300WHP with the M62 (Stock blower), if you are trying to achieve those numbers by using small pullies which take the M62 way out of it's efficiency range. When using a more efficient setup, ie this twin screw the LSJ will be able to make more power under less strain due to the higher efficiency of the compressor.
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
This engine can handle 300WHP no problem, remember the turbo cobalt (325whp)
07-25-2007, 01:06 AM
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The cost of the kit will be somewhere around $3000-3500US, remember it comes with a dual pass setup, bypass valve and ability to easily run water/meth or nitrous after the SC.
Here's some kits to compare the price to:
http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...hp?cPath=60_89
As for the origins of this kit, Mase came to us for some help, we thought it was a great idea so we put in our knowledge and resources to get it done fast. I would have to give a lot of credit to the guy as he did a lot on his own.
Here's some kits to compare the price to:
http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...hp?cPath=60_89
As for the origins of this kit, Mase came to us for some help, we thought it was a great idea so we put in our knowledge and resources to get it done fast. I would have to give a lot of credit to the guy as he did a lot on his own.
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07-25-2007, 01:11 AM
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10.5:1 pistons @ ~8000rpm on pump, it broke the crank so it was over after that...without neutral balance shafts.
07-25-2007, 01:14 AM
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It has been observed that the LSJ cannot handle 300WHP with the M62 (Stock blower), if you are trying to achieve those numbers by using small pullies which take the M62 way out of it's efficiency range. When using a more efficient setup, ie this twin screw the LSJ will be able to make more power under less strain due to the higher efficiency of the compressor.
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
Nobody knows exactly how much the stock engine will take but around 300-350hp is stressing the hypeutectic piston (due to the material). As far as the block, crank, rods etc., they supposedly can handle WELL over 300hp and I would say that's a good assumption.
It appears that with a good tune and an efficient setup such as this one the stock engine will take around 300hp on a daily driven basis, but who knows.
07-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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I guess even though it broke at that power level it does prove something. I think it might be beneficial with this twin screw setup to go with some valve springs and cams and up to 8000 rpm do you agree? I know that's beyond bolt on, but it is obvious these engines like some rpm or at least more than some would think.
Keep in mind nothing is set in stone. As Doc mentioned there has been more power made, and there is a turbo balt running over 300 already.
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