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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Rebel Whipple kit?

whats the deal with this? is it out yet, can you buy it, ive heard nothing recently about it
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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what is it?
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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The twin screw supercharger kit from Rebel
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Go turbo instead. The whipple kit had some problems
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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didn't the twin screw have like understock numbers or something on the dyno? or if there were gains like something retarded like 10 hp or w/e?
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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no, it actually put down 280 to the wheels on a mustang dyno with ALL STOCK components. exhaust ect...
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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no, it actually put down 280 to the wheels on a mustang dyno with ALL STOCK components. exhaust ect...
can we see the dyno sheet or the thread where they claim that? The was installed on 2k ss sc or w/e his sn is and it didnt work out that great.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:23 AM
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the search tool is your friend. these numbers were made, but they have gone back to R&D to fix the problem(s) and don't really like keeping anyone updated on the whole situation.

-edit- unless they get their act together real quick, just go turbo. or if you are like me and want to stay supercharged, wait for the TVS. ORRR there is also a procharger in the works. again, search search search kk
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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It was a Lysholm 1200AX blower and not a whipple to start with. The guys at Rebel are extremely busy and the kit will be finished when Mase has time. The last I knew he was taking his last finals so he can graduate soon from college. The issue is that the supercharger snout needed to be redesigned due to it leaking oil. With the normal day to day customers and other recent events, they are behind schedule on a few things now.

Anyhow, I laid down 272whp on a Mustang dyno with it and all my mods minus the methanol. This Mustang dyno has been proven to read 20-30whp lower than the average Dynojets around town. Thus, I truely believe I got my 300whp from it and we were no where near being close to done tuning the car. Put it this way, the timing table was really fucked up and the car was crazy hot after being on the dyno for like 4 hours. I'm not trying to BS here or make excuses either. I don't believe in that **** and would like to prove it to your guys when I get back from my nice 6 month deployment I'm on right now. Those who have known me on here know that I'm realiable and don't post total BS.

Please have patience with me and the guys at Rebel as we have not forgotten about the kit. It will be finished and not completely disbanded. I am deployed and really cannot do anything while I'm over here, and Mase will get back on it as soon as he graduates. I'm sure if I was in his shoes, I'd being focusing on my finals and whatnot as well. Thanks for your time gents and rest assured it'll be done and done right after awhile.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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I just talked too Mase couple of days ago and the project car is finished he just has too put the fluids in the engine,trans,coolant. The changes too the whipple are complete and we are going too test the car real soon when he has a min after his exams at university
for engineering.

Can't wait!

Colin
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
It was a Lysholm 1200AX blower and not a whipple to start with. The guys at Rebel are extremely busy and the kit will be finished when Mase has time. The last I knew he was taking his last finals so he can graduate soon from college. The issue is that the supercharger snout needed to be redesigned due to it leaking oil. With the normal day to day customers and other recent events, they are behind schedule on a few things now.

Anyhow, I laid down 272whp on a Mustang dyno with it and all my mods minus the methanol. This Mustang dyno has been proven to read 20-30whp lower than the average Dynojets around town. Thus, I truely believe I got my 300whp from it and we were no where near being close to done tuning the car. Put it this way, the timing table was really fucked up and the car was crazy hot after being on the dyno for like 4 hours. I'm not trying to BS here or make excuses either. I don't believe in that **** and would like to prove it to your guys when I get back from my nice 6 month deployment I'm on right now. Those who have known me on here know that I'm realiable and don't post total BS.

Please have patience with me and the guys at Rebel as we have not forgotten about the kit. It will be finished and not completely disbanded. I am deployed and really cannot do anything while I'm over here, and Mase will get back on it as soon as he graduates. I'm sure if I was in his shoes, I'd being focusing on my finals and whatnot as well. Thanks for your time gents and rest assured it'll be done and done right after awhile.


yeah, I vouch for this gentleman. Since our cars are relatively new, and not very popular, things just take some time to be created....just be patient. lol
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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didn't the twin screw have like understock numbers or something on the dyno? or if there were gains like something retarded like 10 hp or w/e?
ACTUALLY IT DYNOED AROUND 300WHP, BUT THEY COULDN'T GET IT TO STOP THROUWING THE BELT
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?

Anyhow, I laid down 272whp on a Mustang dyno with it and all my mods minus the methanol. This Mustang dyno has been proven to read 20-30whp lower than the average Dynojets around town. Thus, I truely believe I got my 300whp from it and we were no where near being close to done tuning the car.

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whatever makes you sleep at night
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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I cant wait for this to be finished and running correctly!!! Then ill be in line for this one..
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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whatever makes you sleep at night
Talk all the **** you want man, I've got two cars with my rear bumpers ready for your viewing pleasure. If my Cobalt doesn't do the job even without the twinscrew, my Integra sure will clean up the mess. And it only dyno'd at 213whp and 208wtrq on that very Mustang Dyno.

In fact why don't you ask Xskier874 what his Cobalt dyno'd on the same dyno with all his mods. I bet he'd be willing to confirm exactly what I stated. Anyhow, I don't use dyno's for bragging rights. I use them as a tuning tool and that's it. No more no less.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Talk all the **** you want man, I've got two cars with my rear bumpers ready for your viewing pleasure. If my Cobalt doesn't do the job even without the twinscrew, my Integra sure will clean up the mess. And it only dyno'd at 213whp and 208wtrq on that very Mustang Dyno.

In fact why don't you ask Xskier874 what his Cobalt dyno'd on the same dyno with all his mods. I bet he'd be willing to confirm exactly what I stated. Anyhow, I don't use dyno's for bragging rights. I use them as a tuning tool and that's it. No more no less.
lol someones got there panties in a bunch. No one called you out for a race there boy. I just laugh at the fact that you believe a 20-30 WHP difference between dynojets and mustangs. And dont say your not using dyno numbers to brag. . . You jsut made the assumption that because a dynojet dynos higher than a mustang dyno, you actually have 20-30 more WHP, giving you 300WHP. That means all you care about are dyno numbers, because you opt to believe the dynojet is more accurate than the mustang because it dynos higher. If dynos were just a tool, you wouldnt have made an comparison between dynos to try and promote your 300WHP. You want people to believe you got 300WHP, go run a high 12 second pass.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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We could sit here and argue all day here, but I'm positive that I wasn't bragging and I was giving factual information here. If you don't believe me give Colin at the Show Zone a call and ask him. The number is 843-873-4071, I've got nothing to hide and he will personally tell you how much lower his dyno reads. I really could care less about numbers and I highly doubt me spending numerous hours learning how to tune my car and read what it's doing was just for some damn numbers. I do all my own work, all my own tuning now, and I'm pretty damn sure I know my way around this car a hell of a lot more than most do if we want to go there. If it's more factual information you want here it is.

As seen below, the car with just an intake made 197whp on this very Mustang dyno. Then with a 2.8" pulley, stage 2 injectors, intake, and exhaust the car made a whopping 214whp on the same dyno. Then with a 2.6" pulley, 60lb injectors, dual pass mod, intake, exhaust, CTI race header, exedy clutch, Cometic 2.2L headgasket and Golden Eagle headstuds, and professional HPTuners tune it made 238whp and 230wtrq. Mike's (Xskier874) car made 214whp with his intake, exhaust, header, 2.8" pulley, 60lb injectors, and a tune on the same damn dyno. Gee I don't use it for a tuning tool though. Especially after I make all the changes to the tune and have spent countless hours doing so on it to ensure that my car is safe and powerful. So when I made 272whp with twinscrew, I'd say that I definitely made more power there.

Here's the dyno graph from the first pull with the intake compared to my 2.6" pulley pull if I remember correctly since the numbers are hard to read and I don't have the sheet with me in the desert. Look at all that useable torque we managed to squeeze out of it. IIRC it was around 90-100 ft.lbs. too at the best point. I'm gonna say that the blower is definitely maxed out at this point for efficiency vs. just generating too much damn heat.


Now here is the twinscrew on the very same dyno at a much hotter time of the year without final tuning that still needed to be done.


Just for your information too my power mods are as follows at the current moment since I'm awaiting the return of my twinscrew: 2.6" Pulley - 60# flowmatched injectors - HPTuners - Devil's Own Methanol Inj. - Dual Pass Mod - Injen CAI - Corsa Touring Exhaust - CTI header/catless downpipe - Exedy Hypersingle clutch/flywheel - NGK Plugs - 2.2L Cometic headgasket - Golden Eagle headstuds - Driveshaft Shop Stage 2 axles - Ingalls "Stiffy" Mount - and a ton of other parts to tie in the whole package

I really don't know why I even bother anymore sometimes though. What have you done for the community since you've been on here? I've personally tested the initial Clutchmasters clutches, put in my own time and money to R&D the twinscrew wtih Rebel Auto Worxs, and provided a wealth of information and learning experiences to everyone. But hey, go ahead and flame away or do whatever you want. I'm done here.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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^^if i could rep, you would be the king...
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Post #17 Reason enough to get in line for this........
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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hey im not going to argue about what you have done or how much you have done. Its obvious you know your cars...

but again, dyno numbers dont mean anything, and if they meant so little to you, you would not have wrote that huge post to prove your 300WHP.

like i said, go run a high 12 second pass and spending 3000 grand for that kit is worth it and ill believe the 300WHP.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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300whp does not equal 12's in a 1/4 mile
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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^^eh, maybe.

Hey 2k5ss/sc?, when you getting back?
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by -Jayson-
hey im not going to argue about what you have done or how much you have done. Its obvious you know your cars...

but again, dyno numbers dont mean anything, and if they meant so little to you, you would not have wrote that huge post to prove your 300WHP.

like i said, go run a high 12 second pass and spending 3000 grand for that kit is worth it and ill believe the 300WHP.
wow you are a tard
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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300whp does not equal 12's in a 1/4 mile
Exactly! A good driver, good traction, and a car that is capable to do so does! I'd love nothing more than to go to the track and tear it up, but at the same time trannys are getting to be expensive since I've grenaded two 3rd gears already. I think I have it all under control now, but it scares the **** out of me that one trip down the 1/8th or 1/4 could equal me spending an inornate amount of time under the car again and another $1000-$2300 on a tranny to fix it again. If GM made their trannys as strong as the old Camaro's and muscle cars used to get, I'd be down in a heartbeat to run it again at the track with some Hoosiers or M/H slicks.

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^^eh, maybe.

Hey 2k5ss/sc?, when you getting back?
I'll be back June/July time frame. Deployments are awesome!

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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biggest thing is just take it easy at the track. ease it off the line and dont power shift the thing. if you dont run it so hard at the track (wich you dont need to) there is no more risk in breaking things than there is on the street.
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