2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 04:06 AM
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biggest thing is just take it easy at the track. ease it off the line and dont power shift the thing. if you dont run it so hard at the track (wich you dont need to) there is no more risk in breaking things than there is on the street.
I agree with you, but for a lot of guys this is what they do this is there passion, and pushing the car to the limits is what they wanna do, now if you don't got the money to dig your self out of the ditch then I would reconsider but some guys, this is what they do you know.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharkey
biggest thing is just take it easy at the track. ease it off the line and dont power shift the thing. if you dont run it so hard at the track (wich you dont need to) there is no more risk in breaking things than there is on the street.
Not quite. The VHT or equivalent used on the track for traction actually allows the car to grip even harder than normal. This causes undue stress on components and since I have DSS Dtage 2 axles, 235/45/17 Toyo T1R's, and a Exedy Hypersingle 6 puck clutch. All the stress/shock goes straight to the tranny unfortunately. On the street, my car would just break traction and spin. I could baby it more on the track, but then it wouldn't really reflect the times the car is capable of. Besides, on the street I usually would roll into the throttle instead of trying to launch off the line and high shift points on key.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSS-supercharged
wow you are a tard
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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-Jayson-

I swear your the dumbest **** on this website, a dyno doesnt matter? 300hp cant run a 12?

Got news for ya I dont care how good a driver you are your not getting 12s if you dont have the Hp, and when it comes to driving you have to suck pretty bad at that too if your only getting 13.9s off a stage 2 with a smaller pulley

just stop posting. PLEASE.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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2k I know how ya feel man, That's why I don't even bother arguing with people anymore. Hopefully ****'s all ready to go when you get back, if not, I'll see what I can do on a turbo kit for ya.
(btw going back to the dyno in a few weeks... should be up @370-380whp with the tune finally getting dialed, stupid thing start going crazy lean in 3rd though last night, so more hours of tuning tonight lol)
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by -Jayson-
hey im not going to argue about what you have done or how much you have done. Its obvious you know your cars...

but again, dyno numbers dont mean anything, and if they meant so little to you, you would not have wrote that huge post to prove your 300WHP.

like i said, go run a high 12 second pass and spending 3000 grand for that kit is worth it and ill believe the 300WHP.
What a ******* douche bag!!
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
2k I know how ya feel man, That's why I don't even bother arguing with people anymore. Hopefully ****'s all ready to go when you get back, if not, I'll see what I can do on a turbo kit for ya.
(btw going back to the dyno in a few weeks... should be up @370-380whp with the tune finally getting dialed, stupid thing start going crazy lean in 3rd though last night, so more hours of tuning tonight lol)
what the **** is wrong with your car?!?!?!!

that fuel map didn't help?
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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I dunno man, hit 15's in 3rd gear last night. Need to play with the maf table, the ******* piping step down is playing havoc on my car. Gonna try and fix it this weekend, if I could find my damn K&N intake to use as my piping I'll be good.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Not quite. The VHT or equivalent used on the track for traction actually allows the car to grip even harder than normal. This causes undue stress on components and since I have DSS Dtage 2 axles, 235/45/17 Toyo T1R's, and a Exedy Hypersingle 6 puck clutch. All the stress/shock goes straight to the tranny unfortunately. On the street, my car would just break traction and spin. I could baby it more on the track, but then it wouldn't really reflect the times the car is capable of. Besides, on the street I usually would roll into the throttle instead of trying to launch off the line and high shift points on key.
your car is only capable of how fast you can go while keeping it together. why not throw some torque managment back on??? why not try rolling back on the throttle after shifting??? there are ways around breaking the driveline on a car that has too much motor for the rest of the car, its all driver input. that, or its time to upgrade the transmission.

for some reason i dont see the point of extensive upgrades like this if your going to keep a "weak" transmission in the car. ive been there before, it sucks, but if your car has the potential to blow a tranny at the track it can and will happen on the street.
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Old Dec 28, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
2k I know how ya feel man, That's why I don't even bother arguing with people anymore. Hopefully ****'s all ready to go when you get back, if not, I'll see what I can do on a turbo kit for ya.
(btw going back to the dyno in a few weeks... should be up @370-380whp with the tune finally getting dialed, stupid thing start going crazy lean in 3rd though last night, so more hours of tuning tonight lol)
I hear you man. I was actually looking into making my own turbo kit for awhile and the APT turbo SC delete kit almost pushed me there. It would be real easy for me to do as well. I was thinking along the lines of a GT2871R or a Turbonetics GT-K 450! It'd give me just enough spool time and a whole lot of power up top. We'll see what the future holds though.

I'll keep checking in for those updated dyno numbers man. I'm really interested to see what you end up pulling out in the long run. I take it you replaced the turbo already? Oh, and don't you love tuning the car with all it's damn quirks! One minute the A/F is just right and the next it's somewhere else on the charts!

Sharkey, the torque management is turned back on now, I'm running Royal Purple Max Gear 75W-90 now that has a shockproofing agent in it and is far better than the stock fliud, and I'm going to be getting some better mounts when I get back. I have learned from my past two breakages and one was on the street and the second was at the track a few months later. I've looked into getting a second tranny built, and have found a company to do so. It's all about funding at this point. My scant Air Force E-5 paycheck doesn't go to far past the mortgage, truck payment, and household bills so it takes some time to save. I have rekeyed my driving style as well to be easier on the car, so I am trying. It just still scares me one rip down the track can cause a few months downtime to save up enough to fix it.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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the only thing i dont like about this kit is that it seems like your limited to about 350 with most of the turbos you can go alot further
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rodimus_Prime
the only thing i dont like about this kit is that it seems like your limited to about 350 with most of the turbos you can go alot further
This is true man. If I were to spend my money again, I would go turbo with no questions asked. There is just a lot more potential there, but the blower whine and power I got from it was enough to make me grin from ear to ear.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
We could sit here and argue all day here, but I'm positive that I wasn't bragging and I was giving factual information here. If you don't believe me give Colin at the Show Zone a call and ask him. The number is 843-873-4071, I've got nothing to hide and he will personally tell you how much lower his dyno reads. I really could care less about numbers and I highly doubt me spending numerous hours learning how to tune my car and read what it's doing was just for some damn numbers. I do all my own work, all my own tuning now, and I'm pretty damn sure I know my way around this car a hell of a lot more than most do if we want to go there. If it's more factual information you want here it is.

As seen below, the car with just an intake made 197whp on this very Mustang dyno. Then with a 2.8" pulley, stage 2 injectors, intake, and exhaust the car made a whopping 214whp on the same dyno. Then with a 2.6" pulley, 60lb injectors, dual pass mod, intake, exhaust, CTI race header, exedy clutch, Cometic 2.2L headgasket and Golden Eagle headstuds, and professional HPTuners tune it made 238whp and 230wtrq. Mike's (Xskier874) car made 214whp with his intake, exhaust, header, 2.8" pulley, 60lb injectors, and a tune on the same damn dyno. Gee I don't use it for a tuning tool though. Especially after I make all the changes to the tune and have spent countless hours doing so on it to ensure that my car is safe and powerful. So when I made 272whp with twinscrew, I'd say that I definitely made more power there.

Here's the dyno graph from the first pull with the intake compared to my 2.6" pulley pull if I remember correctly since the numbers are hard to read and I don't have the sheet with me in the desert. Look at all that useable torque we managed to squeeze out of it. IIRC it was around 90-100 ft.lbs. too at the best point. I'm gonna say that the blower is definitely maxed out at this point for efficiency vs. just generating too much damn heat.


Now here is the twinscrew on the very same dyno at a much hotter time of the year without final tuning that still needed to be done.


Just for your information too my power mods are as follows at the current moment since I'm awaiting the return of my twinscrew: 2.6" Pulley - 60# flowmatched injectors - HPTuners - Devil's Own Methanol Inj. - Dual Pass Mod - Injen CAI - Corsa Touring Exhaust - CTI header/catless downpipe - Exedy Hypersingle clutch/flywheel - NGK Plugs - 2.2L Cometic headgasket - Golden Eagle headstuds - Driveshaft Shop Stage 2 axles - Ingalls "Stiffy" Mount - and a ton of other parts to tie in the whole package

I really don't know why I even bother anymore sometimes though. What have you done for the community since you've been on here? I've personally tested the initial Clutchmasters clutches, put in my own time and money to R&D the twinscrew wtih Rebel Auto Worxs, and provided a wealth of information and learning experiences to everyone. But hey, go ahead and flame away or do whatever you want. I'm done here.



Nice post and way to answer the OP's question...wish I could stuff like that to help the community...
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