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03-06-2009, 01:58 PM
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saab mani
after a quick search i have mixed answers that id like to get sorted out:
1.) it doesnt create equal air to each cylinder
2.)some say it bolts up fine others said it needs something machined on it
3.) the senors and lines are not correct on it
if you got any answers thanks for posting
1.) it doesnt create equal air to each cylinder
2.)some say it bolts up fine others said it needs something machined on it
3.) the senors and lines are not correct on it
if you got any answers thanks for posting
03-06-2009, 02:10 PM
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lol im wanting to know if it does or doesnt create equal air to all cylinders
if its 100% bolt on no mods needed to fit the head and last if all sensors will bolt up and with little to no mods
if its 100% bolt on no mods needed to fit the head and last if all sensors will bolt up and with little to no mods
03-06-2009, 04:29 PM
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03-06-2009, 04:57 PM
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after a quick search i have mixed answers that id like to get sorted out:
1.) it doesnt create equal air to each cylinder
2.)some say it bolts up fine others said it needs something machined on it
3.) the senors and lines are not correct on it
if you got any answers thanks for posting
1.) it doesnt create equal air to each cylinder
2.)some say it bolts up fine others said it needs something machined on it
3.) the senors and lines are not correct on it
if you got any answers thanks for posting
2) It does not bolt up directly. For more than one reason. First the head bolts are bigger than the holes in the intake manifold so those need to be reamed out to fit. Or, you could helicoil your head and use smaller head bolts. The bolt pattern is the same though. Second, your throttle body won't mount up to it for 3 reasons. The lsj tb doesn't sit flush so you need a spacer to hold it off of the manifold. The manifold opening is a half inch smaller diameter than the lsj TB so you will want to match those. Finally the holes in the TB will have to be lengthened inwards to match the pattern for the manifold.
3) Your MAP sensor will mount up but you have to take some material out of the hole in the manifold because our map sensor will bottom out. Or, you could hold it up with a couple of washers. There are a few extra vac lines but nothing that can't be plugged.
I know what I'm talking about. I am running a LK9 manifold and I think I'm the only one who has one.
03-06-2009, 05:02 PM
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what kinda solution did you find for the tb but very good response thats what i was looking for i can ream the holes out but the only concern i have is the tb issue
03-06-2009, 05:08 PM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/advanced-performance-modifications-130/how-lk9-manifold-lsj-tb-154439/
^ That's a quick How-To I Made on it. It will show you what i did. If you have any more questions ask.
^ That's a quick How-To I Made on it. It will show you what i did. If you have any more questions ask.
05-04-2009, 11:13 PM
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you need to get the LSJ or the LK9 intake manifold gasket and do this to it
and if you have the twist on MAP sensor and not the bolt on one you can do this to hold it in
this is the order from bottom to top
manifold
rubber square
MAP sensor
aluminum bracket
the rubber square piece i got from chopping a 2ply hose, drilled a hole the size of the MAP nipple and pushed it thru, the pressure from the aluminum bracket holds the sensor down, and prevents it from blowing out, and the rubber piece acts like a gasket...11psi so far no problem after numerous WOt pulls
and if you have the twist on MAP sensor and not the bolt on one you can do this to hold it in
this is the order from bottom to top
manifold
rubber square
MAP sensor
aluminum bracket
the rubber square piece i got from chopping a 2ply hose, drilled a hole the size of the MAP nipple and pushed it thru, the pressure from the aluminum bracket holds the sensor down, and prevents it from blowing out, and the rubber piece acts like a gasket...11psi so far no problem after numerous WOt pulls
05-04-2009, 11:45 PM
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I'm working on installing the SAAB manifold. It will not bolt up to a 2.2 or 2.4 head with just the gasket!! Look at the cylinder head mating surface of the SAAB intake -- there is a depression between the inside intake ports. This depression does not mate up to the 2.2 or 2.4 cylinder head (2.0 head is DIFFERENT here) -- you will have a massive intake leak here if you do not fill in the depression of the SAAB intake on the 2.2 or 2.4 head -- it will work on the 2.0 head.
The 2.4 TB is too big -- just like the LSJ TB -- you have to mod it as shown in Maxim X's how-to thread.
You'll need to either plug or get a reducer for the MAP to work in the hole in the SAAB intake as the current hole is too big also.
The 2.4 TB is too big -- just like the LSJ TB -- you have to mod it as shown in Maxim X's how-to thread.
You'll need to either plug or get a reducer for the MAP to work in the hole in the SAAB intake as the current hole is too big also.
05-05-2009, 02:19 AM
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if it fits the LSJ it fits the other engines head, or else the LSJ intake manifold woulnd't bolt to a L61, that manifold bolted to my head just fine, its ap erfectly machines flange, added with the gasket modded like pictured above, it will bolt to th ehead right, and u can still use ur stock MAP in the way i showed above aswell, and it works fine with no leaks as i have proved by running it in my blown L61
05-05-2009, 03:36 AM
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yea you tell him that....all the heads are the same...and they have the same bolt pattern...and yes the saab mani will bolt right up to a 2.2
btw i also own a saab 93....just letting you guys know
btw i also own a saab 93....just letting you guys know
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05-05-2009, 09:35 AM
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Yes, the bolt pattern is the same. The LSJ manifold doesn't have the SAAB intake's depression between the intake ports either -- the 2.0 LSJ mani is flat in this area. the 2.0 and the 2.2/2.4 head is NOT cast the same between the two inner intake ports. While it is true that the Cavi people started this I haven't read a thread where they are actually driving with it yet.
2.0 LSJ
SAAB Manifold
2.0 LSJ
SAAB Manifold
05-05-2009, 09:48 AM
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Here's the REAL DEAL folks
Why the SAAB intake can't be just bolted to a 2.2/2.4 and driven away:
https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil..._education.jpg
The SAAB mani will bolt up to a 2.0 LSJ head without a vacuum leak in this area because the LSJ and SAAB cylinder heads are the same castings.
Educating Cobalt owners one post at a time...
Why the SAAB intake can't be just bolted to a 2.2/2.4 and driven away:
https://www.cobaltss.net/gallery/fil..._education.jpg
The SAAB mani will bolt up to a 2.0 LSJ head without a vacuum leak in this area because the LSJ and SAAB cylinder heads are the same castings.
Educating Cobalt owners one post at a time...
05-05-2009, 09:49 AM
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