Depends on how aggresivly you tune the car.... but pretty much.... its always on (snow kit) so just make sure its filled... and you have an light for the fluid level

 

Did you tap your stock bottle? And did you add the light? Cause I didn't think there was a light for the stock bottle. Coolingmist trunk mount tank, pump mounts to it. Best way to go in my opinion.

 

snow sells a low fluid level upgrade you can tap in.... I used my stock washer tank... almost 2 gal so I figured that good enough for me... also less lines to run and things to see.

 

when is the snow kit necessary when it comes to pullies and psi,
im still a lil worried about this and actaully thinking about the cobalt addiction heat exchanger, if im runnin a 2.7 with the 60 pounders and it gets tuned, water meth is not nesessary, but if i got below a 2.7 and pushing over 20 psi then its nessessary??
also if i just get the hardware and the tune, the heat exchanger wont reallyhave a bad affect if i dont tune for it right away will it? the comp will jsut compenstate and if you want you can always tweak it with a lil tune here and there??

 

its not necessary at all. Its lowering the air intake temps etc. yes this will make the charger not run as hot, but you really shouldnt have a problem with it. My suggestion would be just to go to an aftermarket H/E.

 

Ok you don't have to tune for the H/E and you don't "need" the meth kit.... it all helps you get the max power out of your car... if thats not what you are going for then you don't need it... but you can expect gains of 20 + hp if using the meth kit and tuning for it. My car is tuned for it and my kit is disconnected at the moment... I just don't beat on it when its not on and I have no problems.

 

thanks guys,

 

it also helps eliminate KR when going with a small pulley like the 2.5" and 2.6".. car runs better with cooler air no matter what though on any car

 

ive been looking into this to, so ive heard both you need to tune it to get 20hp and u dont need to tune it to get 20 hp, wich is it? if you DONT tune it u can expect 20hp gains and its totaly safe at this point??

 

it's safe either way.. but if u tune it you will get optimal gains because you are fine tuning it just as you would take your car to a shop and get it dyno tuned for your specific car with your specific mods to get optimal gains

 

So outta curiousity, would this setup benefit a stock car?

 

No, selfinfliction tried this and he didn't notice any significant gains on a stock car.

 

Please tell me its like nitrous (only engaged at WOT)! Other wise it seems like you would be filling that tank once a day!

 

it doesn't spray until you hit a certain maf voltage which you can set on the controller so if you stay below a certain throttle % you aren't spraying all the time... mine comes in at basically 60% throttle (per maf settings on controls)

 

correct me if im wrong but meth/water allows you to basically tune for racegas octane level on pump gas....

ergo....not tuning for it would be like running racegas in your car without the spark map for it.,.....which would clog the **** out of everything would it not?

 

well Im runnin a race gas tune on my car so I can't verify that... but I highly doubt it... I actually cleans all the crap outta your motor...

 

So, you can tune for like 101 octane and run 91 octane with no problem? I CAN'T WAIT TIL I GET WATER/METH INJECTION!!!

 

Wait, so what happens if you run the water/meth injection and use like 104 octane? Could you tune your car for like 120 octane?

 

basically..... but if you do you're runnin a risk should the system fail... I have a mild tune on the car... but didn't lean the fuel out... so w/o meth I"m at 12.6:1 afr with meth I'm at 11.8:1 afr.

 

sounds like two tunes would be sweet. Its track dayit up or going out to have fun tonight so put in the appropriate tune. and totally detune for winter. I going to get HP TUNERS b/4 or at the same time.

 

that would def be a plus..

 

Im interested in this kit. I don't want to get my car tuned right now so would this kit help my setup with out a tune and by how much? If I went with an H/E and The Water/Meth with no tune what would be my gains? Thanx!

 

probably see from 10-20 hp .... give or take without tuning

 

That is precisely the reason we developed SafeInjection(tm). It is a comprehensive safeguard to prevent engine damage should anything happen to the injection (including running it out of fluid). We have people running very expensive engines with massive amounts of boost and timing very safely, every day because they have a watchdog making sure everything is safe.

Running an aggressive tune with gasoline you run the same danger - if an injector starts to stick closed or fuel pressure drops for some reason, etc. And there is no safeguard on the injection, other than knock-sensing ignitions and check engine lights.

 

You need to be at 12.8:1 when at the track no matter what your injecting