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Solution To Changing Alternator On Turbo Lsj's!!!!!!

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Old May 31, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Solution To Changing Alternator On Turbo Lsj's!!!!!!

Woot!

i emailed rebel autoworx about making their S/C delete available again even though they aren't selling the turbo kits anymore...

this is my email to them:

Hello...

I am a member on ******************, i remember reading that you guys were making turbo kits for the LSJ's, well, myself along with a few others
have started building our own turbo kits and have run into a problem your
company
offered a solution for at one time... The S/C delete you had with your turbo kit has raised some interest with
us... we are most interested in the bracket/pulley you used to support
the belt where the supercharger snout/pulley would usually be... we are
extremely interested in this due to the fact that it could save a lot of
time and money not having to change alternators... if you could please contact me ASAP i would love to talk to you more
about purchasing this bracket or even getting some kind of group buy or production
started so they can be available to those of us who are trying to install
a turbo on a budget.

thanks alot
-Joel
and their response:

We can definitely help with that. If we get enough orders we can have them
fully machined, something like this:

Adjustable Timing Belt Tensioner for Honda H-Series Motors - Anodized Silver

How many are you guys looking at? Also what are you guys doing for the
plate to go over the lower manifold?

Let us know if any other assistance is needed.

Rebel
I will be emailing them again tonight to respond and see if we can get a whole S/C delete kit going with the black box AND pulley bracket in one packaged deal... if we can this could mean money saved for us turbo swap guys.

Also... soon, i will be putting together a group buy thread as they have pretty much confirmed they are interested in doing this for us...
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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aannnddd....
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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lol....
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Depends how much it is...

I didnt pay anything to have my alternator modified to work without a extra pulley...

They just did it for free.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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I have a thought for you guys. The B207L in the SAAB's is the same exact motor as the LSJ, but it is turbo'd. Anyone ever try using the tensioner and alternator setup from one of those? I'd be willing to bet it would work well.

I'm sure Rebel could do something like this for you as well though.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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get the setup off a 2.2 cobalt or cavi... allt he same ****, just need to use a 41.5" belt

and their "solution" is doo doo. I had it on my car, and it sucked ballz (ps welcome to a few years ago).
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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^^ The welding solution, or the Rebel solution?
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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If you go with a 2.2 alt don't you need the pigtail from a 2.2.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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no, weld lsj alt, takes about 5 minutes with removing it. No wiring **** to deal with, no stupid adjustable pulley crap to deal with, no thrown belts. Just swap the tensioner, grind a nub off the alt bracket (I posted pics in my build thread on how to route everything) seriously easiest setup you can do.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:25 PM
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1 thing wrong with this thread:


Rebel
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Tis the truth
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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It's like a dead horse that tried to divide by zero
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Smarty Art
If you go with a 2.2 alt don't you need the pigtail from a 2.2.
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
no, weld lsj alt, takes about 5 minutes with removing it. No wiring **** to deal with, no stupid adjustable pulley crap to deal with, no thrown belts. Just swap the tensioner, grind a nub off the alt bracket (I posted pics in my build thread on how to route everything) seriously easiest setup you can do.
I'm using the L61 alt and didn't do **** with wiring. Just swapped em' out...
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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I thought the connectors are different.
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Smarty Art
I thought the connectors are different.
aparently not

thisis the same as guys going from 2.2 stock to m62 supercharged...just backward.
buy the 2.2 tensioner, take out the bracket that goes between the alt and the engine, and use the 2.2 belt...problem solved
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Smarty Art
I thought the connectors are different.
I don't know what to tell ya. We have a L61 block sitting around at the shop used for mocking up components and I just took the alt/ten off that. I may have grabbed the electrical connection with it, but I don't see how that one would be any different than the LSJ's as it plugged right into my stock wiring. It was a real busy day when I mounted it, so I don't really remember. I do know that my voltage is within specs, so it's definitely working a-okay...

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aparently not

thisis the same as guys going from 2.2 stock to m62 supercharged...just backward.
buy the 2.2 tensioner, take out the bracket that goes between the alt and the engine, and use the 2.2 belt...problem solved


That really is an easy route to take if you have a local junk yard or pick-n-pull. There are a lot of cars w/ the L61.

No need to worry about any mounting brackets; though, all the Ecotec alternators are mounted using bolt provisions in the housing...

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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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I have a 2.2 alt but I'm going to weld the LSJ alt. Got the stuff to do it.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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Welding the LSJ alt is so easy, its not even funny...

The guy at my muffler shop did it for free.... Took 10 minutes.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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what is all this welding about??? just get eh shorter bolts from the 2.2 application and take the bracket out...bolts straight to the block/head
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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The LSJ alt will only charge in one direction or else it would just spin freely. You have to weld the outer pulley with the inner.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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i have a stock 2.2 tensionor, the shorter 3 bolts for the alternator, and the belt if anyone wants to buy it, all u need is a alternator
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Go ahead and try to just remove the bracket for the alt, and reattach it.. and see if your alternator works.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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just look up my build thread, there is detailed pictures how to do it.
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