i know that torque is what breaks trannys but we dont have an upgraded transmission to go to. thats the thing that sucks though. without better transmissions or gears to choose from(besides quaiffes outrageous priced gears) theres no point in putting all the power into our cars. just my .02 cents.

 

Ok, you mentioned hp so I thought you didn't know that.

The availability of aftermarket parts for any given car is driven by the popularity/sales volume of that vehicle. Maybe some time down the road though, a more affordable one will become available for our SS/SC's.

In the meantime, a good amount of power can still be put into our cars with the stock trannie (especially if one avoids powershifting, as synchros are usually the first thing to go in an overtaxed trannie).

And yes, the cost of that 6-speed will keep it out of the reach of most people (it's 4+ grand price is 20% of the original cost of my car!).

Back in the day, new beefed up aftermarket Mustang trannies sold for about $1,000-$1,500 (today, they're still available for only about $1,500-$2,000 new).

That's at least one advantage of getting a performance car that has a longstanding history with the public ....

 

if you have $3,000 laying around, the twinscrew swap might be of intrest to you.

 

that still wouldn't cut it. power adder swaps(or nitrous) are the only way to kill an evo from a dig.

just because you dont want to spend the money to get there, dosent mean we dont.

the evo is a measuring stick. if you're beating them from a dig, you are fast. this should be taken as a compliment by evo owners... and non evo owners (like yourself) should just shut up and myob when people are comparing their cars to an evo. it dosent affect you in any way.

 

Speaking of SS/SC vs EVOs. I used to have a SS and traded it for an MR. The SS was a good little car, and pretty stout for a 23K car. I was 101A the othernight at a light. and i pulled into a gas station and right behind me was a SS SC black. Thought it was my old one at first. We were talking and he was saying he had a CA stage kit, the only reason i had any idea what that was is because i wanted one. But we both say bye blah blah and leave. It just so happens we got a red light haha. Being stock right now and him having a stage kit. He did pretty damn well i only had him by maybe a car 1/2. So i wouldnt doubt the SS with mods beating an EVO. He also had exhaust and headers and probably more. But i gave him some props

 

wow. not possible? you're pretty easily defeated. i guess no one ever told you "never say never"

once tuning is sorted out, a turbo balt could easily be reliable. i'm not gonna sit and argue with an unknowledgeable noob. so, good day to you.

 

its all about doing it right and proper tuning. go call calloway, or lingenfelter and tell them aftermarket f/i cars cant be reliable.

stop making misinformed posts.

in no way is the cobalt like a festiva. right there you just made yourself look even more rediculous. please just drop it.

 

adam? lol

 

Go with meth injection, a 2.5 pulley, 60lbers and wiring harness, 2 step colder plugs, stage 2 belt, adjustable tensioner and a full exhaust. Get a good custom tune put on the car and you should be at the 290/270 range. More than enough to beat the cars you mentioned from a roll. If you want to win digs you'll need a solid engine mount, tranny mounts and axles.

 

mine runs low 13s, and i drive it to work everyday.
my cobalt has never let me down. because of a combination of things:
me treating it right
proper dyno tuning
correct parts installs

(i do all my own work)

my only problem so far was a broken stock downpipe. i replaced it with a header/ downpipe from zzp. now its fine.
(i have 26,000 miles)

 

I had an evo and I always had people telling me that I was one of the nicest evo drivers around. However, in my evo I had plenty of experiences with idiot drivers thinking that all I did was drive around hunting for races. My evo was my daily driver and at least twice a day I had either some honda, srt 4, or cobalt ss trying to get me to race. Point being, no matter what the car, there will always be some douche out there to make all the other drivers of the same car look bad. Now that being said, I did meet alot of complete fools driving evos thinking that they were untouchable. I think it is more the generation associated with the car than anything else. Someone already said that the evo appeals to a younger generation and therefor will appeal to "kids" that just don't know any better.

 

x2. its this generation y crowd.

 

personally just do a turbo swap.. i would wait until Hanh releases his kit and then sit back and watch for a little while and see how things turn out... the motor is already built for FI so just go the more efficient route and be done with it.... because if you bought this car then you know your gonna play with it... you dont by a blown car with the mentality of it always staying the way it is.. hopefully .. and doing this.. you can always keep the stock setup and sell the turbo later on for prob 70% of original cost + still having a stock car to sell.. doesnt sound like a bad investment to me for a few years of fun..

there is a dude with a ws6 that lives about 2 miles up the road and we have raced numerous times from all speeds including digs.. same output.. dead even pulls however i will normally be able to squeeze out about 1/2 car up to 155-160 before shut down... and i have not thrown in over $1000 yet total on mods on my car..this is just a DD for me that i tinker with but i will turbo it at sometime, the ability of this car being a sleeper is just to great.. it has been out for 3-4 years now and people still have no clue what it is but the look of it always draws challengers...

what most peeps dont think about though.. is this car is not a track car.. take those same cars from a roll.. and the coby has a much better record.. now make it more efficient and this car can be stupid... the Stage I from tag alone is pushing down higher #s then Stage III srt4s.. so whats that tell you...

i mean truthfully.. if this is your DD car.. are you going to buy alot of mods for "track" days.. yeah.. right.. bullshit.. and i call out anybody that says that too.. everybody races on the street, so you build a street racer.. not a drag racer.. and in that category.. the coby has tops on all those competitors except the srt4 maybe seeing drivetrain loss is comparable

 

seeing how 90% of the time im "rolling" when people try to race me on the street.. ill take my odds and not worry with technicallity of definitions..

 

since when is there rules in street racing.

 

do you ask people not to run nitrous? or turn the boost down, or change maps. change jetting in a carb, run street tires instead of slicks?
NO, you don't

run what you brung, and hope you brought enough.

 

I kind of like the idea of keeping the a SC on the car. My WS6 has a turbo and I kind of like the idea of having a Turbo car and a SC car. Also I will disagree with you on the DD part. When my WS6 is done it will be my daily driver and the cobalt will be my fiances daily driver. Most of the parts for the WS6 will be "track" parts (TH400 w/TB, spooled 9", roll cage and thing like that) and like I said I will drive it back and forth to work and around town daily. When all said and done I am hoping the car will make upwards toward 700-900rwhp and the one thing I love about the turbo is you don't have to go with a crazy radical cam and non streetable things to make good power. Also would like to let everyone know I very rarely street race when I have a car running I am a regular at our 1/4 mile strip here I went through the getting my tickets and being stupid when I was younger and really couldn't afford to lose my license due to the fact that I drive for a living lol. I think what the plan will be is to take small steps with it and see where they go header, exaust, stage 2 and then if its not fast enough there I will explorer the turbo, nitrous etc. Thanks for the input though guys

 

the only thing here negotiated is nitrous. tires are never brought up, nor is any lengths.

heads up, ***** out. it is split here, 50/50 on roll vs dig. just depends on who you run around with

 

not every car hooks from a dig.

 

Is a guy who is flapping his arms around like a duck supposed to be the equivalent of a professional Starting Tree Light?

Because one car could leave a tenth quicker than another one, and no one would know it (especially seeing as how many of these "races" are done at night).

And if that car then won that race by a nose, did he really "win"? Was his car really faster?

NOPE.

People should save their breath when it comes to talking about street racing/gambling.

Instead, they should go to a REAL drag strip and find out what their car can actually do.

If anyone is seriously going to go EVO hunting, then they're going to have the better axles already installed (only $500-$600).

What in the heck is all this senseless talk about "beating a car from a dig".

What does that really mean?

0-20mph?
0-40mph?
0-1/4 mile?
0-top speed?

What?

There is no 1/4 mile track in the country that I know of that stops at the 60 foot mark.

Really nicky, you need to break off your love affair with the Evo.

Because in the end man .... she's gonna burn 'ya.

 

I ran a 12 second sti on the highway and beat him a good 2 cars. My mods are: "Stock Mod". Ran a stock evo on highway and i murdered him like bam.

 

LMFAO.

right.

 

i dont know where this guy is coming from but most races are on the highway you dont really get the chance to slow down to a stop and race them, unless your screaming stuff like "hey you better mkae sure that bottle is off" or "dude, you tire psi has to be adjusted" roll races are more common than races from a dig, thats just the way it is.

 

and thats why people build cars different to the area you live..
here.. i live in the Watermelon 500 and id love to see you stop in the middle of I-285/85/75 to stop and race.. your gonna be starting from a 70-80 mph roll buddy.

 

I like your point here I am the kind of person that likes to take my cars to the drag strip and see what it will actully do. I like the guys that you run into and say well my car runs 11's cause I beat my friends 11 second car from a 60 mile an hour roll. As far as I am concerned if you are not starting from a dead stop and running full throttle for a 1/4 mile its not a race there is no way of telling what a car will run until you time it alot of people don't understand that there is alot more to a 1/4 mile time then they think like your 60' ets and there is no way to tell what that will be from a rool. If you really want to see who is faster go to a track where you run on lights and have to cut a good R/T running against cars that will run a tenth or two apart every race and the person who cuts the best light will win. There are a couple EVO's where I am at that bring there cars to the track and back there **** up. One runs 10.8's and the other 11.2's which is damn fast for a 4 cylinder I think. I am not wanting to come even close to what they are running but would like to see some low 13's or high 12's and still drive home with my A/C on and also not have to dump thousands of dollars into the car aswell. I know those EVO guys up here have ALOT of cash dumped into thier cars on top of what they paid for the car itself.