stage 2 pulley
stage 2 pulley
how the hell do u get that pulley off.. the bolts that came with it are not helping at all. i went at if for like 30 minutes and i still have not been able to get them off. how did u guys do it?
no one can help me out on this?
no one can help me out on this?
Last edited by BWSW214; Dec 5, 2007 at 11:01 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Alot of people can un tighten them with the supplied bit , i removed mine and swapped pulleys . You have to put alot of pressure holding the bit into the blue bolts thou . Some dealers installed lock-tite on the bolt's so they can be a bitch to get off.
It kinda depends
upon how they were installed, if Loctite was used, how tight they were torqued, etc. The blue bolts are designed so as not to come off too easily, probably to discourage removing the pulley to put smaller sizes on, like you and I and half the members of this Forum are probably trying to do anyway.
Best thing you can do is use a 3/8" drive ratchet with an adapter to hold the GM installation tool used to install the blue bolts, and with the belt on so the pulley doesn't spin when you are trying to get the bolts loose, hold the ratchet as hard against the bolt with the heel/palm of one hand while you are gently, gradually, slowly, but forcefully loosening, being very careful, not to round off the blue bolts in the pulley. Sometimes giving the handle end of the ratchet a good sharp/stout pop with the heel/palm of your free (right) hand, while applying maximum pressure to hold the ratchet end against the bolt with your left hand, will pop them loose. Really lean into it and put a lot of pressure against the ratchet/bolt with all of your weight that you can, position the ratchet so that the handle is clear/accessable, up where you can give it a good solid whack as I described above. Just a solid, short, whack. Make sure the GM tool is centered into the bolt as best and as deep and solid as possible. Maybe just test the ratchet, so that you feel good resistance, take up the slack, and maybe even use your left hand to keep the ratchet applying turning presssure against the bolt, as well as up against the bolt. Like when you are using a ratchet and feel the bolt solid against the ratchet gear, no slack. Then whack it. It is like describing a feel. If you ever get them off, make sure you get some allen head/hex bolts to replace them with so you won't have to fight that battle again. If you have them rounded off already, you have a mess. You may end up having to drill them and use a bolt extractor to get them off. Then you have a whole set of other problems, like worrying about hurting the threads on the S/C end etc.
I have a feeling if you do what I suggested, and persevere, don't get mad and go into the destruct mode, you will probably be able get them off.
An impact driver like Sears makes that will hold the GM tool/bit used to install them used to take them off might work also, especially if you have damaged or compromised the bolts. Once you get them broke loose/started to come off, they will come out fairly easily.
Let us know how you are doing.
Good luck.
Doc
Best thing you can do is use a 3/8" drive ratchet with an adapter to hold the GM installation tool used to install the blue bolts, and with the belt on so the pulley doesn't spin when you are trying to get the bolts loose, hold the ratchet as hard against the bolt with the heel/palm of one hand while you are gently, gradually, slowly, but forcefully loosening, being very careful, not to round off the blue bolts in the pulley. Sometimes giving the handle end of the ratchet a good sharp/stout pop with the heel/palm of your free (right) hand, while applying maximum pressure to hold the ratchet end against the bolt with your left hand, will pop them loose. Really lean into it and put a lot of pressure against the ratchet/bolt with all of your weight that you can, position the ratchet so that the handle is clear/accessable, up where you can give it a good solid whack as I described above. Just a solid, short, whack. Make sure the GM tool is centered into the bolt as best and as deep and solid as possible. Maybe just test the ratchet, so that you feel good resistance, take up the slack, and maybe even use your left hand to keep the ratchet applying turning presssure against the bolt, as well as up against the bolt. Like when you are using a ratchet and feel the bolt solid against the ratchet gear, no slack. Then whack it. It is like describing a feel. If you ever get them off, make sure you get some allen head/hex bolts to replace them with so you won't have to fight that battle again. If you have them rounded off already, you have a mess. You may end up having to drill them and use a bolt extractor to get them off. Then you have a whole set of other problems, like worrying about hurting the threads on the S/C end etc.
I have a feeling if you do what I suggested, and persevere, don't get mad and go into the destruct mode, you will probably be able get them off.
An impact driver like Sears makes that will hold the GM tool/bit used to install them used to take them off might work also, especially if you have damaged or compromised the bolts. Once you get them broke loose/started to come off, they will come out fairly easily.
Let us know how you are doing.
Good luck.
Doc
Last edited by mrdoc442; Dec 6, 2007 at 01:59 AM.
I added a couple
more thoughts that might help, and hopefully describe the technique a little better. I hope you reread above before you tackle it. Use the best tool you have. Keep it well centered, tight and torqued left solid, pop it. Take your time. Be very deliberate. You'll get 'em.
Then like I said, get rid of those damn blue bolts, get some grade 8 bolts the same length and size that will accept an allen wrench, don't use anti-seize or Loctite, then just snug them up as tight as you can get them using only your hands. Re-check them in a day or two, and after that whenever you change oil. Mine have never loosened.
Getting the belt off is a little bit of a trick also. There is a tool made by pulley boys that works really well. It can be done with an open end wrench, but is a little more difficult.
Doc
Then like I said, get rid of those damn blue bolts, get some grade 8 bolts the same length and size that will accept an allen wrench, don't use anti-seize or Loctite, then just snug them up as tight as you can get them using only your hands. Re-check them in a day or two, and after that whenever you change oil. Mine have never loosened.
Getting the belt off is a little bit of a trick also. There is a tool made by pulley boys that works really well. It can be done with an open end wrench, but is a little more difficult.
Doc
If you are a trying this by yourself like I did, I removed the supercharger so I could get more tourque and leverage on the bolts so not to strip them. Got a strap wrench and a torch. Put a little bit of heat on the bolts. held the pulley with the strap wrench and slowly got them out without stripping them.
Just a note..... if you do strip the blue bolts, another way to get them off would be to weld a nut to the blue bolts. I've seen a buddy of mine do this countless times. I'm sure someone here can tell you if this would be an easy solution or not as I have no idea what material those blue bolts are.
As a side note.... this also works if you ever twist a bolt off and have something to weld too.
As a side note.... this also works if you ever twist a bolt off and have something to weld too.
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