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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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if i did go with a pulley and injectors etc and say i were to blow my motor somehow or tranny would they be able to tell i voided the warranty with mods?
As long as you stay with their GM Performance parts you are good to go. Anything else, not so good.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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As long as you stay with their GM Performance parts you are good to go. Anything else, not so good.
but he's not in a gm warranty he's under a bank warranty
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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zzp stage 2 for sure, gm is over priced.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
but he's not in a gm warranty he's under a bank warranty
Exactly, but how are they gonna know i have stage 2 pulley and injectors? If i bought the gm parts it wont say something like zzp performance.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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zzp stage 2 for sure, gm is over priced.
x2! also gmpp doesn't give u options and i think ottp stg2 is still on sale

Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
Exactly, but how are they gonna know i have stage 2 pulley and injectors? If i bought the gm parts it wont say something like zzp performance.
well they might b able to tell if the pulley is like stainless steel instead of stock black. if they hook u up to a scanner they might be able to tell that ur tuned. but either way, ur not under a gm warranty so might as well go zzp for more power and save moneys
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Okay so of i were to go with ottp would u recommend the kit or individual parts. And eithet way do i need a tune or no? Sorry for all the questions im a noob to superchargers.
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
Okay so of i were to go with ottp would u recommend the kit or individual parts. And eithet way do i need a tune or no? Sorry for all the questions im a noob to superchargers.
def. get a kit thats where u save teh moneys

with a gm stage 2 belt and multiple pulley system (its what u would probably b best off with) its only costing u $362 right now IF you send in your pcm. either that or, if ur car is a dd, buy a pcm off somebody with the same year as urs and it will work.

OTT Stage 2 Kit

they load a 'base file' tune onto it to get you moving, getting officially, individually tuned soon after is strongly recomended.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:28 AM
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I think im gonna hold off on the stage kit for now till i know more,for now ill get an intake and go for appearance mods.
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 05:40 AM
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i wud recommend an intake then full exhaust before you get the stage kit, its not necessary but if ur eventually going to do it you might as well do it before the tune is put on the car.
id also recommend piecing together the stage kit, i was able to get one put together without spending a dime, jus trading parts, all you need is 60lb injectors, find a pulley either 2.8 if u do some cooling mods, or 2.9 or 3.0 if no cooling mods, then stage 2 belt if u go with a 2.9 or .8, and spark plugs probly brk6eix or brk7eix. and find someone to do a custom tune. youll spend like 150 on the injectors and 20-30 on a pulley and 20$ on a belt if u wait for a deal or jus search enough then 30$ on plugs, so low 200$s in parts and then the tune which id say will run you anywhere from 200-500 but with that youll be much happier than gm stage kit and dnt have to worry about any mishaps with ur ecu in transfer to ott or zzp
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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And honestly, this motor is pushing 8 years old. Every question has been asked and answered on this site. Shouldn't be hard to find the answers you're looking for.
this.

Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
anytime you take a production engine from its stock configuration you loose reliability


the stock stuff isent as bad as you think
read this
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l...e-first-16806/
and this.

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:05 AM
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yea i feel ya haha thats why im waiting till spring to do the other cooling mods. oh and meth is a cooling + horsepower mod that eveyrone seems to love!
I was looking at ottp stage 2 setup, so if i went that route, should i go with the 2.8 mps or the stage 2 pulley? Also idk how the pcm info goes, whats the best route for a tune?

i would also go with the heat exchanger just for safe measures.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
I was looking at ottp stage 2 setup, so if i went that route, should i go with the 2.8 mps or the stage 2 pulley? Also idk how the pcm info goes, whats the best route for a tune?

i would also go with the heat exchanger just for safe measures.
The 2.8 mps is a 5-bolt pulley system.

The Stage 2 is a 4-bolt pulley system, and is best for someone upgrading from GMS2. This way you only need to buy the pulley, because it will bolt right to the 4-bolt GMS2 hub.

Both will work the same.

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
I was looking at ottp stage 2 setup, so if i went that route, should i go with the 2.8 mps or the stage 2 pulley? Also idk how the pcm info goes, whats the best route for a tune?

i would also go with the heat exchanger just for safe measures.
i got the gm stage 2 belt and multiple pulley system. it was for a few reasons that i'm now forgetful of. its essentialy a 2.8. about the safest pulley size you can go.

like i said if you buy the kit, you need to send them your/a pcm. they load a base tuneo there tha you can rock for a while. eventually, i would recommend post on here somehwere to find someone who can tune you specifically to make ur car the best running it can be.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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i got the gm stage 2 belt and multiple pulley system. it was for a few reasons that i'm now forgetful of. its essentialy a 2.8. about the safest pulley size you can go.

like i said if you buy the kit, you need to send them your/a pcm. they load a base tuneo there tha you can rock for a while. eventually, i would recommend post on here somehwere to find someone who can tune you specifically to make ur car the best running it can be.
Okay so go with the 2.8 mps, is the heat exchanger a need with this setup. I am completely stock and just want the easiest setup like i said i dont need alot more power. And do i send them the pcm once i bought the kit.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
Okay so go with the 2.8 mps, is the heat exchanger a need with this setup. I am completely stock and just want the easiest setup like i said i dont need alot more power. And do i send them the pcm once i bought the kit.
YES the h/e is not ESSENTIAL, but suprememly recommended. that way you don't blow your supercharger.

theres a how to on here i'll try to find but with THIS heat exhanger it literally slides in from under ur bumper and bolts in. then all u gotta do is re-route the cooling lines a little bit to run through it and ur all set. its a real piece of cake and doesn't take longer than an hour if u know what ur doing.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by riceburner
i got the gm stage 2 belt and multiple pulley system. it was for a few reasons that i'm now forgetful of. its essentialy a 2.8. about the safest pulley size you can go.

like i said if you buy the kit, you need to send them your/a pcm. they load a base tuneo there tha you can rock for a while. eventually, i would recommend post on here somehwere to find someone who can tune you specifically to make ur car the best running it can be.
And is it better to have a stage 2 belt or the oversize tensioner pulley? Or can i stick with my stock belt. Thanks for the responses i am new to chevy modding so i have no idea what im talking about
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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^^^^ you need the stage 2 belt if u get the mps. and no problem its not too often i'm able to help someone so i'm jumping on this one!

anyway heres the how to i was talking about

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/how-...bumper-221176/
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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okay thanks, so if i just went stage 1 with bigger injectors would i need a heat exchanger. Looks like more work than i really wanna do at this point in time. I just wanna shoot for basic mods to put me at the 225 ish range.
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Originally Posted by riceburner
YES the h/e is not ESSENTIAL, but suprememly recommended. that way you don't blow your supercharger.

theres a how to on here i'll try to find but with THIS heat exhanger it literally slides in from under ur bumper and bolts in. then all u gotta do is re-route the cooling lines a little bit to run through it and ur all set. its a real piece of cake and doesn't take longer than an hour if u know what ur doing.
You wont blow your supercharger.

The heat exchanger, and intergrated intercooler for that matter cool the charge air. They do not cool the supercharger.

The only way you can cool the internal blower temp is with water injection.

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okay thanks, so if i just went stage 1 with bigger injectors would i need a heat exchanger. Looks like more work than i really wanna do at this point in time. I just wanna shoot for basic mods to put me at the 225 ish range.
Heat exchangers are easy to install.

Read my "how to" that riceburner posted. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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I read there is a certain pulley tool you need to install stage 2, what is that all about?
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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You wont blow your supercharger.

The heat exchanger, and intergrated intercooler for that matter cool the charge air. They do not cool the supercharger.

The only way you can cool the internal blower temp is with water injection.

Heat exchangers are easy to install.

Read my "how to" that riceburner posted. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
whoops didn't mean to say 'blow' ur supercharger haha but yea its essential for cool IAT's which means it makes use of boost

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I read there is a certain pulley tool you need to install stage 2, what is that all about?
ya just get a pulley tool from autozone its really not that special.

however, to get the stock pulley off (its pressed on, not bolted on) you will need a press to do so. you basically need to hang the s/c from something and push out the pulley through the rod its pressed on. easier to do than explain..
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Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
I read there is a certain pulley tool you need to install stage 2, what is that all about?
Yes, with the GMS2 pulley.

It is a tool for the pulley bolts.

The GMS2 "style" pulley OTTP sells comes from Smoothflow pulleys & does not use the GMS2 style bolts.

You can get the GMS2 style pulley in pretty much any size. Like I said before, the option is there so people who are upgrading from GMS2 don't have to purchase and install a new hub.

If you still have the stock press on pulley, you will need a puller tool to remove it, and install the hub.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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turbo it and call it day
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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This is just gettiing more and more complicated lol i hate being such a noob
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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turbo it and call it day
Stay on topic please.

Originally Posted by Beastly Cobalt
This is just gettiing more and more complicated lol i hate being such a noob
It's really not that hard man....

Purchase a Stage kit (either OTTP or ZZP)

Select a pulley size (2.8" is most common)
Select larger injectors (60's)
Send them your PCM to get flashed with their tune.

Bam you just modded your car

If you need any help please feel free to ask me.
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