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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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I think im going to go with the CM FX200 I would like a ACT clutch but they don't make one. Problem being is that I have spent a couple grand this summer and am paying that off when this happen and my tires and going as well . Clutch and new tires will be almost 2g's.

Anyone personally know how long it takes to swap a clutch? Never done one before. Might even have to get it done which is even more money!

Im in the same boat. Clutch slipped on me the other night downshifting into second at about 35. Saving the money so i can get the clutch replaced before it goes. Def gonna have to do 2 tires at a time instead of all 4.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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I'm going to find out later today if my clutch slips..I'm pretty sure that it does (I haven't been beating on my car ever since my dyno which was like 3-4 weeks ago). My clutch feels pretty crumby though. Just recieved my Maf Translator today....They didn't send me the gauge though so I won't be able to read 02 sensor voltage. However I'm just going to make the WOT 2% richer. Then I will go out and see if this **** slips.

What do you guys suggest: Spec Stage 2+ or Clutchmasters fx200 or 300?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by memphisr24
I'm going to find out later today if my clutch slips..I'm pretty sure that it does (I haven't been beating on my car ever since my dyno which was like 3-4 weeks ago). My clutch feels pretty crumby though. Just recieved my Maf Translator today....They didn't send me the gauge though so I won't be able to read 02 sensor voltage. However I'm just going to make the WOT 2% richer. Then I will go out and see if this **** slips.

What do you guys suggest: Spec Stage 2+ or Clutchmasters fx200 or 300?

Im going clutchmasters cause it comes with everything, not just the clutch and pressure plate. I have a feeling so many spec clutches are slipping due to other damage parts not the actual clutch. Stock i think it is a combination of things...
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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not enough force on the clutch disc from the pressure plate....
need a clutch
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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clutchmasters fx300 will be my clutch in the future it looks like, not sure about the combo with the clutchmaster flywheel or fidanza.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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I was thinking FX200 but FX300 looks good too and same price. Im sticking with the stock flywheel. Lighter flywheel carries less mass and can be a bitch during daily driving. With the stock flywheel and the FX200 I should be fine but if the feel of the 200 and the 300 are the same then 300 it is. Don't know exactly but I gotta to resaerch ASAP because once I get back to ontario I think my clutch will be finished.

Originally Posted by retrop
Im in the same boat. Clutch slipped on me the other night downshifting into second at about 35. Saving the money so i can get the clutch replaced before it goes. Def gonna have to do 2 tires at a time instead of all 4.
Might have to do 2 tires at a time as well or just wait till they turn into racing slicks
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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so whats involved if yer keepin the stock flywheel, i heard it has to be resurfaced, please explain
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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My clutch slips with 222WHP with no stage i can just image what would happen when i get my Stage 2
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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so whats involved if yer keepin the stock flywheel, i heard it has to be resurfaced, please explain
Dude working on the answers myself, like I had mention I hadn't looked into clutchs that much but now im forced too. If it turns out all around better to go with a new flywheel as well, ill do that but I'll let ya know.

either way all this is gonna cost a **** load of money, that I didn't plan on spending!
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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i hear ya, i wasnt planning on gettin a clutch this early either, well anyone with an aftermarket cluch and stock flywheel, what is "resurfacing" in respect to the flywheel?
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Old May 18, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Shitty thing is that the flywheel could be messed too but won't know until it's taken apart. Whole situation is *****.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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so stage 3 with a stock clutch isnt a good idea huh?
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Old May 19, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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^^^^ lol I wouldn't even suggest Stage 2 unless you were planning on buying a new clutch in the future.
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Old May 19, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SSCobalt~SSZ24
so stage 3 with a stock clutch isnt a good idea huh?
I basically took it as, if I get stage 2 / stage 3 I will wait till my clutch starts slipping and than worry about it. I have had stage 2 for a month and the clutch is pretty much done for.

This = stage 2/3 must be accompanied by a new clutch. The clutches on these cars have been so weird, some ppl have been having problems stock others stage 2 with no problems at all. Every car seems to be different and every driver is different. But over time with more boost and HP the stock clutch will go.

UPDATE: CM FX300 will arrive at my parents place some time in the middle of next week. I just hope the stocker will last all the way back to ontario (1400 kms). Staying out of boost will make a very boring and long trip.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Resurfacing a fly wheel is like turning a rotor. It cleas up the pit marks and evens out the surface so the new clutch can brake on properly and will last alot longer. You can replace a clutch and not have the fly wheel resurfeced but I would not recomend it as the clutch might slip do to this.

As long as the stock fly wheel is not badly worped or cracked you can just resuface it and put it back on. If its to badly worped or its cracked youll need a new one.



Im going to go back to the dealer on have my clutch fixed under warranty. I only have 5,300 miles on the car and the clutch has a 12,000 mile warranty on it so they going to have to give me a new one. Then Im going to start saveing for a new clutch after that.
I dont think a stock clutch can hold any thing over stock power. BUt I might have just goten a bad clutch, I dont know yet.

Later
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Old May 24, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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CM stage 3 is on hold.

Just had the car checked out for the clutch issue, GM is saying it is the master cylinder. Getting that fixed first thing next week, but than Im going to complain about the clutch being burnt and demand compensation possibly in the form of them paying for the labour to put in CM stage 3. We'll see and ill keep you guys updated.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Well, I had the same problem P7X. I decided to go with the aftermarket clutch. My ClutchMasters FX300 is awsome. I would definately recommend it as an appropriate upgrade.

I just need to get rid of this squeal I have. I may have to pull the car apart again to replace the slave cylinder again. I may have got a bad one.

How is the clutchmaster for street use and what is it rated for on HP and TQ? Did you upgrade the flywheel as well?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by codyss
The GM clutch itself isn't the weak point it's what controls it.

I had slippage problems when 100% stock, after taking it to GM it was a faulty slave cylinder. The slave wouldn't let the clutch engage 100% causing it to slip every once and a while.

I had a new GM clutch & slave replaced under warranty at 7800 miles and added my Stage 2 at 7900 miles. I haven't had any slip so far, when I down shift into second at 40mph I can spin the tires with ease.

I didn't have any clutch slip before my GM stage 2. Now I"m starting to notice that the clutch just doesn't have the pressure with the added power. If I can get this taken care of under warranty I will try. I only have about 300 miles on the car with the stage 2 and about 5500 overall.

Any suggestions on how to approach the dealer on this? The dealer that installed GM Stage Kits told me the clutch wouldn't hold up. I kept some of my thoughts to myself but told the rep I'll keep that in mind when I call GM to complain about putting out stage kits with warranty and not supporting.

Looking for suggestions advice. Thanks!
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Old May 24, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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The price of our aftermarket clutches needs to come down, the fact that I can get a clutch for my Daytona rated for 400hp at around 320 bucks says something to me.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Clutch slipping is the most annoying problem I have ever dealt with. With a new clutch and flywheel.. Will it make my 1-2 shift completely smooth? I love that feeling but it's almost impossible w/ my car. I got on it twice when I got it and haven't taken it to the max since because of how much I hate the feeling. I've had the car for a month and have only put 600 miles on it. This thing better be ******* good when I get on it again lol... AkA friday when my intake and exhaust are installed!
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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the only time my clutch EVER slips is if i hit the gas too hard on the 1-2 shift before the clutch is out, and it's entirely my fault. i can slam through the other gears hard as hell, no slippage whatsoever. i don't think i ever slipped my 2-3 shift of 3-4 shift under hard driving.

wow, this thread is almost 2 years old!! who revived this thing?

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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And once again, another "Bad Clutch" thread ...

Originally Posted by Badmunky
Well I have just over 5K on the car and the other night ... it slipped.
Im pissed! I have been driving a stigh for 10 years and have never had a clutch go out that had less then 100K on it. I drive a semi for a living and know what im doing and it still started slipping on me.
Be careful B/M.

People around here will be quick to point out that you're a sucky driver and you don't know what you're doing.

They just won't believe that our clutch isn't up to par for our vehicle.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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And once again, another "Bad Clutch" thread ...



Be careful B/M.

People around here will be quick to point out that you're a sucky driver and you don't know what you're doing.

They just won't believe that our clutch isn't up to par for our vehicle.
the stock clutch is fine if you know how to drive.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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*2 driver mod is needed
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
And once again, another "Bad Clutch" thread ...



Be careful B/M.

People around here will be quick to point out that you're a sucky driver and you don't know what you're doing.

They just won't believe that our clutch isn't up to par for our vehicle.
well, considering the time in your sig is a hair away from 15's, and is a TERRIBLE stock time, i would say that you don't know how to drive. so stop trying to convince us that you do.

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