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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Stage 2 / Stage 3

I'm saving up for stage 2 right now and hope to have enough by spring next year. Question for you guys though. Will stage 3 be built off stage 2. I would think the stages would be built off each other. I dont wanna get stage 2 and find out i should have just waited for stage 3. Let me know.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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it ould be nice of gm would drop the price, or price ranges. it would be realy nice. but when they do come out i got 4gs to put into my cobaltss/sc. but i hope i dont have to spend all of it on the stage 3 package.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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what stg 3 as far as I have heard/read stg 2 is as far as they will go....
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Dude, have you seen something nobody else has seen? I haven't seen any stage 1 or stage 2 upgrades yet, let alone prices on them. However, for stage 1 I can't see it being very much, since it's only gonna be like a 25hp upgrade. Stage 2 is supposed to be like 65hp, but still shouldn't cost a huge amount. My thought are along the lines of ECU upgrade/reflash, pulley upgrade and intake should take it 65 hp. Shoot, since they set the boost to such a conservative level, I bet it may be just an ECU reflash to get the extra boost to bring it to 230hp easy. That's with only a couple psi from where it is now. So add the smaller pulley and K&N intake and it'll easily be at 270hp. With these simple upgrades, I can't see it costing more than $1000-1500, cause even at $1000, it would be fairly expensive for those things.

Just take some estimates from what is already being said and tested/used on the redline and some ss's. A modest pulley will give like 20-25hp, the intake is supposed to give between 10-20hp and take another conservative amount with the ECU reflash and you got your 65hp easy.

Also, since the engine is already underated, any hp gain is gonna be more than what they say as well. I'm thinking that the 230hp for stage 1 will be whp and the same for stage 2, it'll be like 270whp. That's like 250-260hp stage 1 and 290-300hp stage 2. I like those figures.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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As far as I know nothing has officially been announced and so all of this that you guys have been saying is just speculation.

Tom
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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As far as I know nothing has officially been announced and so all of this that you guys have been saying is just speculation.

Tom

shhhhh don't tell them that. some of the guys around here appearently know much more than gm themselves. by the time gm releases something we will hear claims of a stage 11 2300whp on the stock bottom end
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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I dont know if they are coming out with stage 3 but it would be sweet. I'll go wit stage 2 in the mean time.

Does anyone know if we can put a larger supercharger on the 2.0L or is the M62 the biggest we can go???
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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from things i have seen, i doubt you will pull more more out of that s/c. i was on the assumption that gm has pretty much topped it out (same with the saturn redlines). but i dont own one, so i dont know =\
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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from things i have seen, i doubt you will pull more more out of that s/c. i was on the assumption that gm has pretty much topped it out (same with the saturn redlines). but i dont own one, so i dont know =\
Nah, there is always something you can do to get more out of an engine. There are already people on this board that have gotten more boost out of the s/c with water injection. You might be limited in what you can do to the s/c but there's ALWAYS ways to get more out of the engine...
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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I don't think the m62 is at its limit from the factory..on the last epsiode of STREET TUNER CHALLENGE, after building up the motor, they put the stock blower and intercooler back on. One of the head engineers said that they "can get a lot more out of the stock supercharger than what they come in the production car." So, if they're using the stock blower and IC on their race car, i would say it's a good setup.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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I don't think the m62 is at its limit from the factory..on the last epsiode of STREET TUNER CHALLENGE, after building up the motor, they put the stock blower and intercooler back on. One of the head engineers said that they "can get a lot more out of the stock supercharger than what they come in the production car." So, if they're using the stock blower and IC on their race car, i would say it's a good setup.
i didnt see that, or know that...good stuff. wish there were more ss s/c's around the kc area
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by p7x
I'm saving up for stage 2 right now and hope to have enough by spring next year. Question for you guys though. Will stage 3 be built off stage 2. I would think the stages would be built off each other. I dont wanna get stage 2 and find out i should have just waited for stage 3. Let me know.

Time to order Stage II
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Y? it's not out yet
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Time to order Stage II
The moment I can it will be done along with some other *****.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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make sure the horse comes first!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by p7x
The moment I can it will be done along with some other *****.

What like a cooler car?
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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aNYoNE eLSE Think this guy is an idiot ??? ^
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
shhhhh don't tell them that. some of the guys around here appearently know much more than gm themselves. by the time gm releases something we will hear claims of a stage 11 2300whp on the stock bottom end

dodge has a s11 kit also they are pricy but you get good power and keep your warranty
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stbluSS
aNYoNE eLSE Think this guy is an idiot ??? ^
Anyone else think that this guy lives at home with his Mommy?

Grow Up, You are going to have to do much better than that NOOB, Your Kung-Foo is as weak as your post count..
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
What like a cooler car?


wow i hope you dont have a mp5 making fun of colbalt styling
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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wow i hope you dont have a mp5 making fun of colbalt styling
Ok, So I won't stoop to your level and insult your Neon.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stbluSS
aNYoNE eLSE Think this guy is an idiot ??? ^
I dont think so.

You need to become a member to speculate another like that.. Thats if you not banned already.

Besides he probably knows much more than you do.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian MP5T
Ok, So I won't stoop to your level and insult your Neon.
Good one
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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I just saw this site for the first time>> http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/he...wer-134640.php I didnt know they were going to push up our rpms.. I wander if they will make new guages to go by in that case
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stbluSS
"RANDOM BULLSHIT"
It was a F-Ing Joke. If you were here more often you would know that Pete and I are friends. We live about 2 Km from each other and I actually like his cobalt (Hence the reason I'm here in the first place)
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