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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:25 AM
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I recently completed the ZZP Stage 3 upgrade and cant seem to notice any difference in power. It goes into full boost but it still doesnt feel like it should. Any suggestions.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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Have you talked to ZZP about it?

What mods/tune did you have before?
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Old May 28, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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Did you use the zzp canned tune or pcm? If so that could be part of the problem.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyros777
Have you talked to ZZP about it?

What mods/tune did you have before?
I didnt have any tune done but I had full exhaust header back and intake.

Originally Posted by SCcobaltSS
Did you use the zzp canned tune or pcm? If so that could be part of the problem.
It was the "canned tune" I will have to get it tuned later but no one in omaha to do it reasonably the only is called sublime racing and I wouldnt let them touch my car after what they did to a friends.

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Old May 28, 2010 | 01:57 PM
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woooo wooo wooo. u installed injectors, smaller puelly, and HE. you dont have a tune! thats your problem, your roding a car thats not suppose to do what u want it to do with out a tune. and your actually killing the thing. GET A TUNE!

just seen yor other post with that one. i was about to say how could it start with out some kinda a tune lol

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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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woooo wooo wooo. u installed injectors, smaller puelly, and HE. you dont have a tune! thats your problem, your roding a car thats not suppose to do what u want it to do with out a tune. and your actually killing the thing. GET A TUNE!

just seen yor other post with that one. i was about to say how could it start with out some kinda a tune lol
You have to send the pcm to get it recalibrated which I did its a "canned" tune from zzp. It meant to run on the tune file thats there I just feel its not getting its full potential talkted to Tim @ zzp and the main this is my cheap intake Im going to pick up a new one and swap it out.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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if he has a "canned tune", how does he not have a tune?
i know that it won't be a good tune, but he should notice a difference in power.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gwatson650
if he has a "canned tune", how does he not have a tune?
i know that it won't be a good tune, but he should notice a difference in power.
I guess I will have to take it out on the highway and floor it see what happens. ALthough I did notice that I was getting 40mpg this mornng driving it normally/
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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i really didnt see a huge improvment in mine. but i could tell something was diffrent. i really dont think a intake well add more power. mostly people just drop a K$N drop in filter in there stock intake and run it like that.

so have u gotten on it since u installed it? or have u been just puttin around

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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scotch89
i really didnt see a huge improvment in mine. but i could tell something was diffrent. i really dont think a intake well add more power. mostly people just drop a K$N drop in filter in there stock intake and run it like that.

so have u gotten on it since u installed it? or have u been just puttin around
I just assumed that putting an extra 60hp to the wheels that I would feel something
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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60? no, more like 35 40ish....amybe 30 with a canned tune
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coopercharge
I just assumed that putting an extra 60hp to the wheels that I would feel something
how much psi are you seeing?
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gwatson650
how much psi are you seeing?
it all depends on what size a pulley he went with if he has a 2.9. wich im guessing. probely 14-15
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scotch89
it all depends on what size a pulley he went with if he has a 2.9. wich im guessing. probely 14-15
i'm pretty sure in his other thread he said zzp stage 3..
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Old May 28, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Make sure you ic pump is working and that it is flowing good. Heatsoak starts to become an issue with pulleys under a 2.9". Try and get your car tuned in and you'll feel a difference. Maybe your expectations were a little too high. Good luck and make sure who ever is tuning your car, when the time comes, knows what they are doing (ie the tuning shop that f'd your buddys car up).
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Old May 28, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Your best bet would be to find someone with hptuners. I have tuned a few cars from the horribly flat state of Nebraska lol. I am actually going through that horrible state again on the 10th on my way to california to tune 5 other cars. If you are interested I could stop through on my way down there. I just take 80 west all the way to cali so you aren't far off my route at all =D. Let me know if you are interested.

You really should be feeling a decent power gain. Once you get a custom tune, you will be very happy with the cars power gain.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scotch89
60? no, more like 35 40ish....amybe 30 with a canned tune
ZZP's Dyno sheet on a mustange chassis Dyno showed 249 without exhaust work and estimated 260 with it.

Originally Posted by gwatson650
how much psi are you seeing?
About 17 on a 2.8 Pulley

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Old May 28, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gwatson650
i'm pretty sure in his other thread he said zzp stage 3..
ZZP stage 3 doesnt automatically infer pulley size. It just nets you all the bigger cooling options. He can still run a 2.9 pulley with "stage 3".
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Old May 28, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Zach06CobaltSC
Your best bet would be to find someone with hptuners. I have tuned a few cars from the horribly flat state of Nebraska lol. I am actually going through that horrible state again on the 10th on my way to california to tune 5 other cars. If you are interested I could stop through on my way down there. I just take 80 west all the way to cali so you aren't far off my route at all =D. Let me know if you are interested.

You really should be feeling a decent power gain. Once you get a custom tune, you will be very happy with the cars power gain.
I would be down with that What do you normally charge?
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