Well, I went today to get my Stage 2 installed. Got it put in, and I love it. This car is fast as hell....

But, I'm making this thread because when I get there and tell them what I need the guy goes "why don't you just put the GM Stage 3 kit on it?" and I told him "I like my warranty, that's why.." he begins to tell me "You can put the GM Stage 3 kit on, as long as it's installed by a GM tech and it'll still be under warranty"...

Is this true? Or has anyone heard of this before?

 

lets see...if a GM tech tells you this...i think tis true. why listen to a bunch of people who for the most part only share their opinions and dont actually know?

 

True...

But I just read on CED's website for the GM stage kit's FAQ that the GM Stage 3 kit disables your A/C... I love my A/C....

 

stage 3 is still covered under warranty but yes you will lose A/C.

 

That's stupid, IMO...

 

Should be covered so long as you dont hook up the N2o that is meant to be used with the kit.

 

its not true.
Stage 3 is not covered under warranty.

the PARTS of the kit are under their own warranty, your BUMPER TO BUMPER section of warranty will be intact. but you can kiss goodbye to your powertrain warranty

 

what does it matter GM doesn't fix any power train issues anyways under warranty

 

i was told if the deaer hooks up every thing includin the nitrous it under warenty and wow i spelled nothin right o well.

 

you were told wrong.

there isnt a dealership on the planet that would warranty a sprayed engine.

 

Stage 3 is not covered and will void, the gm documentation covers this and it also states that use you can use it for a "daily driver" and the reason they disabled the a/c is as a deterrant to those who install it on street cars

 

yup.. stage 3 is NOT covered under warranty... i dont care who installs it

 

You guys are right; stage 3 is not covered under warranty by GM. If the service writer specifically tells you that he will install it and still work on your car, this is another way of saying, "I will not fully void your warranty because gm will not know that you have this kit; however if I can't explain an issue to them such as a hole in a piston then there's nothing I can do warranty wise."

Some shops actually do this, and the reason is this. They will install performance parts and continue to warranty things such as headlights, faulty sensor, a/c etc. etc. All they are doing is waiting on your engine to break because you will likely get it fixed by them since you would like for your car to at least get some things covered under warranty. Taking it to another dealership would expose you as having stage 3 and then you'd be screwed. They are trying to make money in the end, which is why they will install a part that they know could possibly lead to failure that they don't have to cover but will fix.

I have witnessed it happen. Now, their thought process may not be all about screwing you, but they figure hey why not make some money from GM and this owner at the same time.

 

yeah, a guy I kinda know in town got it and man is it fun....but when he sprayed on the highway, going against a vette, KABOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!! @ like 145ish and the dealer throws their hands up and laughs....

 

There is already a thread on this STAGE 3 IS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY, int hat thread there is a site saying from gm headquaters them self that STAGE 3 is NOT covered.

 

Not to mention that Stage 3 isn't emissions legal... and is sold as "offroad only"

 

well, you lose your a/c DUE TO OFFROAD ONLY USE. THAT VOIDS WARRANTY. not emissions tested anyone? oh yes, that has been said

anyone else posting otherwise in this thread needs to evaluate their use of logic.

 

The part that gets me about this whole thing is that a GM tech should know that you have to install stage 2 before you go to stage 3. Stage 3 is an upgrade kit that complements stage 2 (you need the injectors, belt, and pully hub from the stage 2 kit).

 

Most GM techs cant do anything without a shop manual much less know what performance parts there are for the car, im half afraid to even go into mine to ask about stage 2

 

Yea, these guys are wrong ^.

The other guys on this forum are telling the truth. GM stage III does VOID your warnnity. If they say it does not, get it in writing from the GM tech. Then get it installed and they would be fucked prolly.

Buy it from CED. Since your in PA, I can help you install Stage II. I installed mine with no issues. Car runs great.

 

Installing isnt my worry its the reflash being done right

 

i dont understand this? why would GM make a product and wouldnt stand by it? yeah the stand by the parts but why not the powertrain? they sound doutful about our vehicals eh?

 

There's no reflash for the stage 3. It comes with a new PCM to swap out with your original. That way when you want a stage 2 back, you just put your original PCM back on. The car will run just fine with the stage 3 pulley with the stage 2 pcm programming.

 

what about the gm stage 2 kit with a stage 3 pulley? would that screw your warranty over?

 

hmm. Not sure on that. I hope not cuz I just received mine and fix'n to install it in a few minutes(well, a tech here is fix'n to )