this is silly of me to ask but i have a stock cobalt ss/sc 2007 and i want to upgrade the stages but do i have to buy the stage 1 and then the stae 2 or can i just go to stage 2?
can some 1 please help me i really need to know

 

can just go straight stage 2 bro

 

Are you trying to keep your warrenty? If not get OTTP stage 1.

If you want to have a GM dealership do the install to keep your warrenty then just get Stage 2.

Stage 1 is just bigger injectors and a ecu reflash.

Stage 2 is a smaller pulley, stage 2 belt, bigger injectors, and a different ecu reflash.

I hope that answers everything.

 

o ok then thanks a lot seriously! but i saw like stages that go up to like 3 and 4 is it true that they delay your airconditioner? like ok it was on some website and it had a gm stage 2 for like 300 or something like that and if i ordered it and installed it all i would have to do is go to chevy and get a ecu reprogrammed or i get a tune as well?

and honestly i dont care about the warranty lol i dont think i have one any more i just want a fast balt

ok say i went with the stage 1 OTTP if i got the stage 2 belts and smaller pulley would i get more HP and TRQ? also i dont want anything to mess up my air conditioner cuz i know some stage does but idk which one

 

stage 1 ottp is good kit i wouldnt go any lower pulley than what the kit comes with unless u get cooling mods man u will be heatsoaking with out cooling mods on the pulley it comes with

 

You want OTTP stage 1. Its all there and it wont have anything to do with your air conditioning. And you can do the whole thing yourself. Plus its definitely better than the GM stage kits and its a good starting point for modding your balt.

I agree. If you are looking to drop more pulley sizes you will at least need a second heat exchanger as well as a tune.

 

Even with the OTTP stage 1 a secondary Heat exchanger isnt a bad Idea!

 

GM Stage 2 does not have a different ECU reflash than GM Stage 1. Both Stage kits use the same tune. I can't believe how many people still do not know/understand this.

 

Only the GM stage 3 kit messes with your AC....

Every companies stage kit is different.. one stage 2 kit might only be half of what anothers stage 1 kit is..

OTT stage 1 kit comes with the smaller belt, and a smaller pulley than the GM stage 2 kit.

 

ok and what kind of heat exchanger would i get or what honestly im new at this whole car thing so im sorry just bare with me a little bit. But like a name of one and how much it costs would be nice! ok like as of now i wanted to get a cai but a friend of mine told me to just get a short ram so idk what to buy or get or anything sorry guys

 

They do not have short rams for our supercharged cars. Do not listen to your friend.

Look into the Over the top performance heat exchanger, or the ZZP heat exchanger.

The over the top performance 3" intake is one of the newest, probably best buy on the market, next to the RAW 3" intake, injen or k&n....

Also, look into the dual pass and the option B tank.

 

so the heat exchanger is the intake? im sorry i just dont know but im going to that over the top like you said in a sec but ya at first i wanted to get the injen cai but the thing that he said was like if water gets in it then itll f up my car and the ottp stage one do they have a stage 2? like could i go straight to stage 2 for that to or i have to go one by one

 

??? No man... the heat exchanger is the front mount radiator thats in the front of your car that cools the fluid running through the intercooler in the intake manifold..

an intake is an intake, like the thing that sucks the air in.. lol.. And you run that risk with all cold air intakes.. just dont go into puddles over 1 foot or so deep and youll be fine.. thats just common sense...

OTT only has the stage 1, which is more power than GM stage 2...

 

Oh suck my dick. Who cares. The reason I don't know is because they both suck. You don't have to be suck an *******.

And even if you are right that makes no sence. How can both have the same reflash when the pulley is different? That would mean you would be running extremely rich with a stage 1 kit because you wouldn't even have the smaller pulley on. When I had stage 2 my tune from GM sucked and ran way too rich. So bad that it would eat a flex joint in 3 months.

So whatever ever. Bottom line is get OTTP stage 1.

Or better yet don't waste your money on any stage kit. Instead get all of the parts and have the car custom tuned. Canned tunes suck, they will never be as good as a dyno tune.

 

lol i got confused my bad..... ya i went to that over the top performance and they dont have heat exchangers? but how much do they usually run and also you said what was the best brand or what ever? ok well i cant thank you enough seriously your helping me a lot!

 

Your wrong... It is the same reflash.. And he wasnt being an *******.. he said you were wrong... and your actually arguing that point.. so it just makes yourself look worse...

The pulley has nothing to do with what AFR you run, or what timing is being run.

If you knew how the car worked, you would know that the car is going to try to get the AFR as close as it can to what is being commanded... so if you have a 3" pulley, or a 2.6" pulley, and your shooting for a 11.5 AFR... the ecu is gonna compensate more fuel for more air..

Yes they do sell heat exchangers...

http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html

 

the only thing is there's not a lot of places i could go to get a custom tune and all that so ya but i think ima just go with the ottp stage 1 then, but um also like is it easy to install and after i install it id have to get a tune and all that and what does the tune consist of? is it like a ecu reflash or what exactly is it?

 

buy this intake
http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html
Stage 1
http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html
Heat exchanger
http://www.ottperformance.com/Cobalt...duct_info.html

 

they will either send you a NEW ecu thats tuned.. u unplug the old one, put in the new one, and send your old one back to them..

I recommend taking out your old ecu, sending it to them for them to tune, then have them send it to you for reinstalation...

 

ok i looked at all those and what about the stage 1 thing like i wouldnt know what to pick! like go with the stage 2 belt...id say ya?.... and what pulley would i go with and also what TB to go with or whatever that means and whats a PCM?

 

So your saying that you can run a 2.6 pulley on a stage 2 tune? And that the AFR will just compensate? I've never heard this.

 

yes stg2 belt, and go with a 2.8 pulley, and keep stock tb
pcm is ur ecu.
get ur redline to 7k and remove tq management

 

no not on a stage 2 tune.. use your head bro.. now your just being ignorant...

im saying that if you have 2 pullies, 2 different sizes... u tune the ecu to 11.5 afr... the ECU will try to push the same AFR of 11.5 if you switch pullies...

 

your not just trying to screw me right? lol naw thanks though and say i bought the heat exchanger and stage kit and intake.. would i be lossing any hp or trq or ANYTHING with my stock exhaust? i eventually want to buy a cat-back but cant afford right now.. also like after all is installed would i have to get it tuned again or anything or it will just all work out with no problems?

 

Dude your seriously a dick head. I was just asking. Because I'm curious for a different reason. So relax with the insults you ass hat. Your the reason people hate asking questions on this site bro... ******* ***.