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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Stage2/CAI/Methanol

with stage2, aem cai and methanol with no tune yet where do you think it should be at whp wise??
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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I wouldnt spray meth with no tune.....
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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190whp
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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I wouldnt spray meth with no tune.....
The only advantage he's getting is cooler IAT's and higher octane. Not **** power wise.

Get it tuned and you'll get some power out of it.

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190whp
I would say no, but his elavation sucks *****.

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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I wouldnt spray meth with no tune.....
theres nothing wrong with spraying meth with no tune its just making the intake temp cooler

So how much power do you think its running?? im thinking around 240 - 250 whp???
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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The only thing is if you get it tuned and something happens with the meth kit you may mess up the motor because the meth kit allows you to add more timing. Snow performance sells their "boost juice" which is made up of 51% water and 49% meth.. regular washer fluid is 70% water and 30% meth. So that may make a difference. but the primary function of the kit is to cool IAT's and act as and octane booster like stated above so youll be able to run a smaller pulley like the 2.5". I use to have the Snow Performance kit and you can touch the SC and its luke warm

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chomponthisdave
theres nothing wrong with spraying meth with no tune its just making the intake temp cooler

So how much power do you think its running?? im thinking around 240 - 250 whp???
doubt it

at your elevation probably about 230whp.

but dynos are just numbers. they are all different,

it might say 250, it might say 210.

it only becomes relevant after you change something and dyno again.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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meth isnt going to help that much without having a tune. and like anomalous said with you elevation you will see probably around 230....and again he is right the dyno wont mean anything the first run.....it would have been better to dyno stock and then add all of the mods you have and dyno again to see the gain you get.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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i just said 190 cause of his elevation and the lack of tune.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/general-cobalt-68/official-dyno-thread-85148/
check out the gm stage 2 with no tune and more power mods
190 is a conservative number but its a number
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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The meth will actually richen the car up a full point. With how rich the GM Stage 2 tune already is, your A/F ratios would be down in the 9's most likely. That would kill some power. Trust me as I just got my meth up and running perfect and not even a half hour ago my UEGO went from 11.8-12.0 down to 10.4-10.6 when the meth started spraying.

I would've retuned my car and then tuned the meth in today, but it's raining out like crazy. Bottom line is that you need to tune the car to see the real results meth can give you. Oh, and you don't pull timing with meth, you add timing.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
The meth will actually richen the car up a full point. With how rich the GM Stage 2 tune already is, your A/F ratios would be down in the 9's most likely. That would kill some power. Trust me as I just got my meth up and running perfect and not even a half hour ago my UEGO went from 11.8-12.0 down to 10.4-10.6 when the meth started spraying.

I would've retuned my car and then tuned the meth in today, but it's raining out like crazy. Bottom line is that you need to tune the car to see the real results meth can give you. Oh, and you don't pull timing with meth, you add timing.
It pulls timing when you accidentally run out of meth and the car starts knocking it's dick off and goes BOOM
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Let's be real here dan....i think we all know here that cars don't have dicks. but yeah crazy rain here in charleston. looks like summer might be coming to an end :/
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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It pulls timing when you accidentally run out of meth and the car starts knocking it's dick off and goes BOOM
Believe it or not, you'd have to do a ton of pulls to burn that much methanol/h20. I have a 2 quart tank and sprayed the hell out of it today and barely any was gone.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Believe it or not, you'd have to do a ton of pulls to burn that much methanol/h20. I have a 2 quart tank and sprayed the hell out of it today and barely any was gone.
Any idea how big the stock windsheild washer fluid is? That's what I plan on using when I do my kit.
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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meth won't kill any power. He'll see huge incredible gains. It's a freaking power adder on these cars. It's like upgrading to a bigger intercooler. Go get some track times using the meth and not using the meth. You'll see a huge difference between the two in you mph. And that's not even tuned.
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