there's not that many places that the case will break, the problem is when something internally breaks and goes through the case, or because of some ******* staying in the throttle under wheel hop

 

holy hell those straight cut gears are the most annoying things in the world those=ftl just cryo it imo

 

ONE M-22's are not straight cut, im so sick of hearing this its pissing me off. they are cut at half the angle (22.5* rather than 45*)

Two, do you really think it would be as loud in a FWD cobalt as it is in that race car. if you got 22.5* gears and cryo'd em. with all the insulation and the fact that the trans isnt under your feet like a RWD car. it wouldnt be even as loud as the older 'birds the other guy posted.

 

Why not swap to a f23? I know most of the high horsepower cavaliers (400+) use them, myself included (I have 474 whp). The only thing done to ours is an OBX LSD differential. Hahn used them on their cavalier with 600+ hp.

 

Guy's straight cut gears are not going to fix this issue. going from helical to straight fixes two primary modes of failure; excessive bearing wear, and gears stripping the teeth from only half the gear because they are side loaded so much that the push partially out of mesh while in gear (well I guess theres a 3rd and that would be pushing the whole input or output shaft through the trans case). If you're stripping all of the teeth off your gears are either too soft, have a stress risers on one tooth causing it to fail then cascade fail rest of the gears from shock loading, or your trans case is flexing and letting the gears pull apart and have less of each tooth in contact until they fail. Hardening the gears will fix the first two, the third would need a better transcase, or maybe some bracing could be welded on by a pro but it would be super hard to not warp the case, or it may be possible to send the case out to be harden but then you may end up cracking the case with wheel hop or some other jazz.

Or if you really want stronger gears without the side loading like straight cut gears but without the noise, consider some herringbone cut gears, a set should only run you like 50 grand.

 

Very good information there until your final statement. So what was the purpose of wasting like ten minutes of your time again? lol

Well because my diff gear is fine...

Edit... the case bracing makes the most sense to me. If it was pure torque that was breaking them 2nd would go all day long. But if 3rd is seeing all of the twist in the case and pulling away it would be just like my rc car when the spurr gear sets too far back from the bell. strips all the teeth off instantly. Don't matter how hard it is if it's not making proper contact. Clearances are the key

 

Lol, I can't sleep.

 

Neither can I. Work is gonna come really soon. 6 AM. FML

 

ah at least i dont have CAD lab until 10.

 

Well we don't have any problems blowing up gears...

All I was saying was the only thing done to the trans is a LSD...

 

Oh alright :P I guess your tranny doesn't pull away from third gear under heavy load. I don't like my case very much

 

As if our gears aren't loud enough when the car is cold already..

 

Sent my parts to these people.

Racing Prices

 

I think you might just be better off learning how to drive.

 

I can drive? haha that actually made me laugh thanks

Looks legit man. I like the colors haha

 

More info on this f23 pleeeeease

 

F23 Transmission - Google Search

 

I'm leaning more towards the 4t4 tranny right now. SMG is selling one i'm thinking about picking up. So is paul, the one that was on mezz's car

 

just so you know....helical gears are the main reason for case flex

 

Hmm. Interesting. Point straight cuts!