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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:14 AM
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Question Suggestions on my future mods?

Whats up everyone,
So I'm in the process of looking for new mods. So far I have a K&N CAI, GMPP cat back, Soon will have a vibrant header and downpipe w/ cat, drilled and slotted rotors, Ark lowering springs.

Now, I'm wondering what to get. I thought about cooling mods, so if anyone has any suggestions on where to start with cooling mods, please help me out.
Then i thought about possibly getting some trans mounts to avoid wheel hop.
If any of you have stuff for sale, let me know what you guys have
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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man there is tons of threads on this..
Vulcan Turbo, LLC -- Welcome -- <option b
Get a good HE zzp or even a CXracing... aparently OTTP is on a hiatus or something
Dual pass or arguably a singlepass
Pulley down 2.8 or 2.7(i have a 2.8 for sale)
Injectors(60s or 80s depending what you wanna do e85, gas, etc)
Powell Stage 1 trans mounts
Wideband(AEM ar nice, make sure you DP has a bung for it)
Good HPT tune
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by xnigelx
man there is tons of threads on this..
Vulcan Turbo, LLC -- Welcome -- <option b
Get a good HE zzp or even a CXracing... aparently OTTP is on a hiatus or something
Dual pass or arguably a singlepass
Pulley down 2.8 or 2.7(i have a 2.8 for sale)
Injectors(60s or 80s depending what you wanna do e85, gas, etc)
Powell Stage 1 trans mounts
Wideband(AEM ar nice, make sure you DP has a bung for it)
Good HPT tune
I know i seen some threads here and there,
I been trying to figure out about dual pass, option b, and a heat exchanger. I eventually want all 3 but is there a certain order you have to do it in or all at once? Or can i start off with, lets say a heat exchanger, then install a dual pass and so on.?

And another thing, Ive heard if i put in a smaller pulley or injectors that i would need a tune right away or else i'd be running to rich or lean? Thats why i haven't installed either. Thought about just waiting to go stage 2 with a tune from ottp or hptuners.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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go 2.8 and get proper cooling mods (I'd go with a big h/e and option b)
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeine13
go 2.8 and get proper cooling mods (I'd go with a big h/e and option b)
I was thinking the same cooling mods, Like i asked above, does it matter which one i do first?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BARBER_IMAZE
I was thinking the same cooling mods, Like i asked above, does it matter which one i do first?
I'd go with both cooling mods first just to be safe
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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might as well do all ur cooling mods at the same time... its easier so ur not taking things apart multiple times
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Zero6LS
might as well do all ur cooling mods at the same time... its easier so ur not taking things apart multiple times
Good point ha. Okay, im not that familiar with the dual pass endplate. Is it something I need with option b and heat exchanger? I've read threads about it but having a hard time wrapping my head around it.
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dual pass with option b will be a better cooling mod than a heatexchanger. unless u get the griffin replacement heatechanger. do dual pass, then wideband, then pully down/tune. ull be happy and safe.

I had to remove my aftermarket heatexchanger a couple of days ago because it took a major beating this winter. I only had a heat exchanger and my ait temps are cooler now, than with the heat exchanger in front of the stock one. I mean the difference was not that big, but i went from 35-40 degree difference in iat to iat2 with my front mount on to 29-35 degree difference. thats 5-6 degrees colder without the front mount. what a waste it was. i dont think i will be plumbing it back up until my dual pass and opt b are installed. and even then i dont think i will throw it in.

Oh and btw it has gotten warmer out since i took it off, and still seeing the same results.

Flame suit on, prepared for comments, but that is what i noticed, and i dont think im the only one who will agree with this.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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So option b and dual pass?

What are you guys thought on a short shifter? I thought about that too.
Im just trying to get differnent inputs on different mods. Just to see what direction its best I go in next.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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you should find out what your goals are for your car first before you start buying parts, and then realize you didnt even want/need that part. always the best idea. saves you alot of money.
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Originally Posted by K-Train04RL
you should find out what your goals are for your car first before you start buying parts, and then realize you didnt even want/need that part. always the best idea. saves you alot of money.
Yeah I know what you mean. I eventually want to go stage 2. Question is with the mods that I have right now, will I have a problem with going stage 2 right now in any way.?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BARBER_IMAZE
Yeah I know what you mean. I eventually want to go stage 2. Question is with the mods that I have right now, will I have a problem with going stage 2 right now in any way.?
Question is, what stage 2? You have GM, ZZP, OTTP, etc. They are all gonna be different, so what you want to focus on is more of a power level. Personally I say do ottp's stage 2 with the heat exchanger, and get someone to tune it with HPT that knows what they are doing. Youll have a good running car and i think you would be happy.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bj's05balt
Question is, what stage 2? You have GM, ZZP, OTTP, etc. They are all gonna be different, so what you want to focus on is more of a power level. Personally I say do ottp's stage 2 with the heat exchanger, and get someone to tune it with HPT that knows what they are doing. Youll have a good running car and i think you would be happy.
thanks, i think thats the kit ima go with. and should i get that pcm from them too? and then have someone with hptuners tune it.
before i go stage 2 i think ima get option b and dualpass endplate though.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Its up to you with the tuning part. If you cant find anyone to tune it for you then yes you need to get it tuned by OTTP. Which youe either send them your PCM and you get it back with a tune. Or they send you a PCM with that tune already on it. And that tune will not be the best. It will work yes, but you will see better results having someone that know what they are doing tune it for you in the car. It will be much more accurate.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Its up to you with the tuning part. If you cant find anyone to tune it for you then yes you need to get it tuned by OTTP. Which youe either send them your PCM and you get it back with a tune. Or they send you a PCM with that tune already on it. And that tune will not be the best. It will work yes, but you will see better results having someone that know what they are doing tune it for you in the car. It will be much more accurate.
Yeah that's what I figured. I think id want to get someone to do my tune.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Save for a stage 3 kit from ottp best hp and money you will spend and I know you will be happy my stage 3 kit from zzp with intake tbs ported and plugged blower header and downpipe and clutch only took me from 205 to 260 or that's what my Aeroface gauges say.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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Is stage 3 the kit with tvs? I think the biggest I want to go is stage 2. Its my dd. Just wanting some nice mods that can give me some good numbers so I can beat a few cars here and there.
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Yea my setup is good I am as fast as my buddies terminator cobra from a go of course and get the zzp stage 3 it's cheap and worth it and mine is a dd
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Yea my setup is good I am as fast as my buddies terminator cobra from a go of course and get the zzp stage 3 it's cheap and worth it and mine is a dd
You have the stage 3 from zzp and your as fast as a cobra?? yeah i just checked it out right now, 400 isn't bad. a lot cheaper than the ottp stage 2 w/ heat exchanger and pcm. lol

You like the set up? would you say its better than ottp stage 2
(from what you've heard or seen)
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Originally Posted by BARBER_IMAZE
I know i seen some threads here and there,
I been trying to figure out about dual pass, option b, and a heat exchanger. I eventually want all 3 but is there a certain order you have to do it in or all at once? Or can i start off with, lets say a heat exchanger, then install a dual pass and so on.?

And another thing, Ive heard if i put in a smaller pulley or injectors that i would need a tune right away or else i'd be running to rich or lean? Thats why i haven't installed either. Thought about just waiting to go stage 2 with a tune from ottp or hptuners.
i would do all 3 in all honesty. if you have to save for an extra month or 2 do it. Yes you would need a tune right away, try to get a tuner to come right after your install or maybe you have a tuner who is a buddy and he can come help you install it if beer is provided. stage 2 from zzp is alright for a base tune. Its a canned tune meaning it wil run safely on all cars. its kinda like geting a tune from the manufacterer it runs rich for safety. If you dont have a tuner near by then this is the way to go. the reccomendation i gave you is beyond stage 2. you can get the stage 2 kit from zzp but select either the 2.8 or 2.7(if your doing all the cooling mods 2.7 is fine) select you will be doing your own tuning(assuming you have a tuner near by) and also select shorter belt. and select 60#s unless you wanna run e85 ethanol. Get yourself a dual pass and your all set and option b i reccomended and your gonna have one sweet car.
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Old Apr 10, 2011 | 03:04 AM
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i would do all 3 in all honesty. if you have to save for an extra month or 2 do it. Yes you would need a tune right away, try to get a tuner to come right after your install or maybe you have a tuner who is a buddy and he can come help you install it if beer is provided. stage 2 from zzp is alright for a base tune. Its a canned tune meaning it wil run safely on all cars. its kinda like geting a tune from the manufacterer it runs rich for safety. If you dont have a tuner near by then this is the way to go. the reccomendation i gave you is beyond stage 2. you can get the stage 2 kit from zzp but select either the 2.8 or 2.7(if your doing all the cooling mods 2.7 is fine) select you will be doing your own tuning(assuming you have a tuner near by) and also select shorter belt. and select 60#s unless you wanna run e85 ethanol. Get yourself a dual pass and your all set and option b i reccomended and your gonna have one sweet car.
THANKS! lol, i think thats everything i been waiting to read. That explains to me everything.
thanks a lot man. I appreciate it.

But one other thing. Would you say zzp stage 2 over ottp stage 2? i noticed you didnt mention ottp. just wondering. i hear different opinions. But i would have someone do my tune for me near by.
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Originally Posted by BARBER_IMAZE
THANKS! lol, i think thats everything i been waiting to read. That explains to me everything.
thanks a lot man. I appreciate it.

But one other thing. Would you say zzp stage 2 over ottp stage 2? i noticed you didnt mention ottp. just wondering. i hear different opinions. But i would have someone do my tune for me near by.
ottp last i heard has not beeing doing customer service very well.. ive had good encounters with them in the past but since they are no longer a vendor on here and quite a few people say they havent gotten back with them im gonna go ahead and say go with zzp. ZZP is a great company and they even come to our big cobalt meet in Chicago, great guys. My friend uses ZZP alot and they have taken good care of him and have fixed any problems he had very quickly.
eventually with these mods your going to want to start looking for a header downpipe as well to go with that gmpp exhaust. ZZP offers a great downpipe and they will even weld the O2 bung in there for your wideband
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