Thats it!
Ya true, but i dont wanna take that chance so i'm gonna do it right. bloody superchargers cause alot of heat, so i'm gonna do lower compression race pistons
Originally Posted by SSGX
WOW!! Maybe i should go with Low compression Pistons if i'm gonna be running that type of boost that's a better idea, and i will use all of the JBP stuff/ and a HELL of alot of COOOOLLIINNNGGG!!! then i will achieve some serious ponies
Originally Posted by SSGX
Bates sleeves, where can i buy them, also can I twin intercool the car, also bigger fan, ram air scoops that should surely give it a nice shot of cold air!
Ram air scoop? Huh? How would that help anything?
HAHAHAHAHAAHA
Last edited by NJHK; May 13, 2007 at 06:08 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
The Bates sleeves were custom speced/ordered through JBP.
As for the cooling we have a revolutionary way to cool my engine but it is very pricey and not yet available to the public.
If I was you I would email Mev or drop by his store as he stopped selling direct. He may very well be interested in doing the type of build you seem to be after.
The engine needed to be turned 90 degrees, a chassis had to be welded to support the new engine cradle and we have to create a new tunnel so the driveshaft can go back to the rear end. This phase of the project is still a work in process.
As for the cooling we have a revolutionary way to cool my engine but it is very pricey and not yet available to the public.
If I was you I would email Mev or drop by his store as he stopped selling direct. He may very well be interested in doing the type of build you seem to be after.

The engine needed to be turned 90 degrees, a chassis had to be welded to support the new engine cradle and we have to create a new tunnel so the driveshaft can go back to the rear end. This phase of the project is still a work in process.

Not if i Its running COOLLDDD!! MUHAHAHA!!!
Last edited by SSGSX; May 13, 2007 at 06:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I'm sorry man, but you need to take a deep breath and slow down. All of the modifications you are talking about getting contradict each other:
Example
Lower compression, stock blower. These two things do not go together. The blower cannot flow enough to create an environment where a lower compression piston would be needed.
Edit: BTW, a ram air scoop would lower the intake air temperature after the blower by maybe a few degrees farenheit.
this guy needs some major help, he doesnt realize what hes getting himself into, these motors actually seem to run better at an average temp of about 88 to 95 Celcius than anywhere else, the colder you get doesnt always mean more power, your oil needs to stay lubricated, the stock supercharger is junk, im only running mine ported for a little while until my motor is fully broken in than full out turbo i go, i suggest you read up, and to spend the money you wanna spend than go and stay with stage 2 is retarded, u sir im gonna hand an award to, just for wanting to stay stage 2 and i cant believe you dished out money for stage 2 muhahahahah lol, sorry its been a long weekend and i really didnt need someone to say what they think can happen
, ill stand by NJHK and ask do u wear a safety helmet everywhere
so i'm gonna have to stick with 10:0.1 diamond racing pistons like my initial setup, i'm new to the LSJ's guys sorry for not knowing as much. but, regardless, The car needs cold air, my 455 Craves cold air it loves cold air. but i'm proceeding with this build, i'm sure my engine builder will suggest to me whats right and whats not. After all he's more of an expert than i am so i guess i'm safe. But, i always assumed that for a forced induction beast that the more cold air it recieved that the engine would run stronger? guess thats a load of ****
so i'm gonna have to stick with 10:0.1 diamond racing pistons like my initial setup, i'm new to the LSJ's guys sorry for not knowing as much. but, regardless, The car needs cold air, my 455 Craves cold air it loves cold air. but i'm proceeding with this build, i'm sure my engine builder will suggest to me whats right and whats not. After all he's more of an expert than i am so i guess i'm safe. But, i always assumed that for a forced induction beast that the more cold air it recieved that the engine would run stronger? guess thats a load of ****
To me it seems like you're trying to think too much about V8s. The fact that this engine has a SC is rare, and it's rare because on this kind of engine it is hard to make power as easily as a turbo can. In this case, look at how other 4 cylinders achieve their power; that is how we must achieve ours after a certain point.
Okay, here's the problem with the way you seem to be leaning towards; it appears with all of these modifications you want to make, which change the displacement, the compression ratio etc., that you are trying to build an naturally aspirated engine. If you drop compression and run the really high rpms necessary to create alot of power at a low compression and no turbo, then you cannot keep the supercharger.
I'm sorry man, but you need to take a deep breath and slow down. All of the modifications you are talking about getting contradict each other:
Example
Lower compression, stock blower. These two things do not go together. The blower cannot flow enough to create an environment where a lower compression piston would be needed.
Edit: BTW, a ram air scoop would lower the intake air temperature after the blower by maybe a few degrees farenheit.
I'm sorry man, but you need to take a deep breath and slow down. All of the modifications you are talking about getting contradict each other:
Example
Lower compression, stock blower. These two things do not go together. The blower cannot flow enough to create an environment where a lower compression piston would be needed.
Edit: BTW, a ram air scoop would lower the intake air temperature after the blower by maybe a few degrees farenheit.
I'm gonna have to stick with the my original plan then.. the 10:0.1 diamond race pistons to keep the blower.
Then i should look into a massive front mount maybe even a twin mount and a better Heat Exchanger. any suggestions
Last edited by SSGSX; May 13, 2007 at 06:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Front mount? We don't have air to air....only air to water. That is what the heat exchanger is for.
Thanks for your suggestions
Last edited by SSGSX; May 13, 2007 at 07:05 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
I need to upgrade that heat exchanger for alot better flow.
I don't understand what the big shamble is about. I just wanna do a built engine, is that a crime lol? I don't understand the sarcasm here folks, i'm only asking for help and i'm telling ya what i do know from experience on larger engines. Mainly v8's i never driven a charged car this is my first. I Wanna build HP pure and simple, now by upgrading my internals is the first step to building "SAFE" HP then comes the compressor. That's where i'm lost, how do i produce this power and incorporate the Kompressor?
Thanks for your suggestions
I don't understand what the big shamble is about. I just wanna do a built engine, is that a crime lol? I don't understand the sarcasm here folks, i'm only asking for help and i'm telling ya what i do know from experience on larger engines. Mainly v8's i never driven a charged car this is my first. I Wanna build HP pure and simple, now by upgrading my internals is the first step to building "SAFE" HP then comes the compressor. That's where i'm lost, how do i produce this power and incorporate the Kompressor?
Thanks for your suggestions
Edit: The kind of internals you want to upgrade to are meant to handle 500+ WHP
Here's the problem. You want to produce 300-350WHP safely. We are telling you that you only need to change the pistons and use a better compressor. You will not make the power with the internals because you can't make a huge different in displacement on this tiny engine. Therefore the easiest way is to use boost. But, not the boost from the M62 because it will be past it's efficiency range.
What are you going to do as far as upgrading the blower? Just so you know, as of right now that would be a huge project.
the only issue is what NJHK pointed out, custom intake manifold and lining up the pulleys. so there is no supercharger swap, what were saying si swap to turbo, cuz its a lot less work, and a lot less grief down the line, and you can run a front moutn on your supercharger but ti wont do anything, the air needs to be cooled afterwards, it wont have any benefits thats why i suggested running a dual pass set-up
the only issue is what NJHK pointed out, custom intake manifold and lining up the pulleys. so there is no supercharger swap, what were saying si swap to turbo, cuz its a lot less work, and a lot less grief down the line, and you can run a front moutn on your supercharger but ti wont do anything, the air needs to be cooled afterwards, it wont have any benefits thats why i suggested running a dual pass set-up
Yep exactly; even getting a belt and matching up the tensioner pulley would be an ordeal.
Now, i see I did some reading.. i Know what you guys are alll talkin about that supercharger is a parisitic loss of power, even with these internals, hmmm... now i'm stuckk! I really like the supercharger, but i want power! i'm damned if i do damned if i dont! lol
Ya, i know i can upgrade to a more efficient dual pass, i seen a few on some sites
the only issue is what NJHK pointed out, custom intake manifold and lining up the pulleys. so there is no supercharger swap, what were saying si swap to turbo, cuz its a lot less work, and a lot less grief down the line, and you can run a front moutn on your supercharger but ti wont do anything, the air needs to be cooled afterwards, it wont have any benefits thats why i suggested running a dual pass set-up
Last edited by SSGSX; May 13, 2007 at 10:02 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


