The pre-production group purchase is under way and will conclude on Friday Oct. 14. This is only for the header, the down pipe will be available later. The purchase price is $420.00 shipped and can be ordered by calling The Other Guys direct at (951)351-9466.

As of 10/5, 8 orders are confirmed.

Here's a partial list of individuals intersted in purchasing:

) TurboEco
2) Ljavy17
3) SS_SC_Cobalt
4) DanM
5) carbombss
6) WopOnTour
7) BlackLine
8) BLACKCOBALTSS312
9) OKCSS
10) QuikFKR
11) CobaltSS313
12) Vita (Red Line)
13) BullDog71ss
14) Cobalt115
15) yianco465(Redline)
16) victory_red_SS
17) DirtySSout
18) Zinner
19) Stealththx
20) 2006AririvalBlueSS
21) Adam
22) SSCott
23) love my SS
24) 05RedSS
25) CleanNFun
26) Maverick
27)CobaltSS05
28)Nuckbuc

 

Count me out. Final specs of this header changed my mind. I was VERY interested when it was to be Stainless Steel, and not a shorty.

I've now found exactly what I was looking for, 100% Stainless, nice long runners, and 3inch downpipe with highflow cat. All this, and its even cheaper than TOG's with downpipe.

Thank You TOG, for developing for our platform!!! Its just not what I was hoping for.

 

ill be out also. sorry. I mean i like the design but right now i cant pay for it.

 

TOG does NOT build stainless steel long tube headers, so I am not sure where you got the idea they did or that was what they were developing.


Just be careful of what header you do decide to buy as many companies who build in stainless use a lower grade stainless that is very thin gauge that will tick and eventually warp, crack, etc.....

 

Well TOG mentioned stainless steel and long tube headers when we initially talked to them on the board. Well I should say thats what a couple members asked for and I don't remeber TOG saying it would be a problem. During the R&D I guess that changed to mild steel and a shorty.

They use mild steel on every header they make so it's not a suprise that ours turned out the same way.

 

I ordered mine a few minutes ago, and John told me that they would be going into production with these.

He said that they got enough orders from individuals and dealers to do the production run.

About the stainless part.....they are coating them with electroless nickel plating which is increases hardness, and corrosion resistance over what regular stainless offers. They are also ceramic coating them to reduce underhood temps.

Besides, they offer a NO FAULT lifetime warranty.

 

Are you sure he said electroless nickel?? The last time I dealt with TOG they only offered ceramic coated headers.

 

Check there website www.theotherguysproducts.com, it tells you all about the process they use to make a header

 

Hey guys, don't assume that stainless steel is the way to go. It's also more expensive. With thick 14 gauge mild steel coated inside and outside it is actually twice as durable then stainless steel. Many header companies will "sell you on stainless steel" but will actually use 16 or 18 gauge material which does have a tendency to 'tick' with the exhasut because of the 'thin' material and will corrode quicker. Headers typically will break down from the inside out. Exhaust gasses are VERY corrosive. Stainless steel does not have the same characteristics of a ceramic coating. When coated in ceramic, it actually creates a "Thermal Barrier" of protection between the steel and exhaust gasses. When properly cured, the ceramic actually impermiates itself into the steel creating the 'Thermal Barrier'
Ceramic, by property, actually helps to 'Move' heat, which with a header application will lower under hood temperatures. Think of a ceramic coated cooking pan. I hope this sheds some light on the issue.

FYI, we no longer coat with electroless nickel. All headers will be coated with a high polish silver ceramic coating inside and out.

 

I agree with TOG 100%. We even sent a piece of 16 gauge 304 stainless and a piece of 16 gauge mild steel that was ceramic coated to Staveley Services Materials Testing facility in Santa Fe Springs Ca. for testing and the findings backed up what we have known for a long time. Stainless though it has a low iron content still rusts/corrodes when exposed to the heat and gasses found in engine exhaust. SUS 304 actually goes quicker than stainless produced in USA, but it doesn't hold up like ceramic coated steel does.
We did see discoloration in the luster of the ceramic coating, but after the same testing the steel under the ceramic coating showed no signs of wear.

 

So what do you guys have to say about a quality stainless header, that has been JetHot coated?

Thats where mine gets sent as soon as it arrives.

 

Jet Hot is crap, their sterling coating is only rated to 1300 degrees!

The TOG coating is rated at 2200 degrees!

If you want anything re-coated just talk to Jon at the TOG shop, he did the headers on my truck.

 

Just a question cus I know I saw the info on a thread before but couldn't find it ... I would love this buy as I have been working LOTS of OT at work and will have the cash no prob to make the purchase. Does this install void warrenty at all? and how difficlut in your experience has it been to install? is it a 1 or 2+ man job and lots of work to install. Sorry bout asking the question on the group buy thread but I just couldn't locate the other thread quickly

 

it's a one man, 2-3 hour job with no air tools and no lift. all i had were some jackstands

 

so is it a voided warrenty for you?

 

Thats why they have JetHot2000. Good to over 2000degrees, comes in gray, blue, or black finish.

I had my ecotec turbo manifold, exhaust housing, and downpipe done in 2000. Then all the charge pipes done in Sterling.

I'll post pics when the header is done, I don't want to hijack this thread anymore.

 

What he said

 

Why would your warranty be voided ?

 

dunno adding replacing stock for after market ... I know that there is an after market department in most dealerships but will gm spank you on your bottom for installing this item???

 

When you install aftermarket parts they can not "void" your warranty... All they can do is decline a warranty repair if they have deemed that the damage was caused by the part you installed.... For example.... If you have a header on and your transmission blows up they cant deny the claim for that unless they can prove that the header caused the damage..... I dont think they are going to be able to do that.....

*EDIT* Oh ya... I ordered my TOG header today !

 

thx for the clearification

One last thing how much is the down pipe gonna run and for those of us that will most likely purchase this item will there be a discount for the down pipe as well?

 

I talked to TOG today and didnt get a price on the DP.... but I think that group buy or pre production purchase or whatever it will be isnt going to be for a little while.... They need a Cobalt so they can check fitment... I guess it was fitted for a Redline and there are some slight differences but they dont want to go into production with it until they know that its 100% right !