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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Turbo LSJ...

so after talking to Shaun 04redline for a while on different occasions i decided i def needed his help with my tune, well the results clearly speak for themselves...

gotta give it to Shaun, 04redline for letting the beast out of the cage!!!

major mods: HAHN lvl 5+
60lb inj
7gph meth @ 5psi (100% M1)
3in intake with 5in K&N
gasket port matched exh side on head
78lb springs
9:5:1 diamond
3in high flow cat
3in exh crush bent
38mm ext vented to atmosphere

tuned to 22.5 holding 21psi till 7800rpm
91oct pump gas
afr starts at 12.2 working to a 11.5 by RL
12-14* timing



other mods:

stock clutch lol (in one vid you can see i lift on the 1-2 cause it slipped hard)
235/40/18 BFG KDWII
stage 1 axles


again cannot say enough about Shaun's tuning and friendliness


we made about 12-15 22psi 3rd gear pulls and about 4-5 24psi pulls in 4th gear, anyone who is curious and would like to view a log send me a pm. it was amazing how hard it pulled 4th.







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Old Sep 24, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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How much power you think your throwing down now?
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Why is it that on some turbo setups you can hear the spool extremely well and on this one and some others, you cant hear it at all?
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:23 AM
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i don;t care how much power you're making. all i need to know is. if you're on dr's or not.

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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damn nice
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
i don;t care how much power you're making. all i need to know is. if you're on dr's or not.

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muhahahahaha, na not that night but they werent stock tires either. 235/40/18 KDW with more than half tread


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liking cometic right now....



all i gotta say is thanks to the guys at cometic... thanks... needless to say im going back to a stock HG!

it seems as if combustion was leaking into coolant, then forcing coolant into the oil. thats always good for the turbo, main and rod bearings it will live again though tomorrow if my dealer has a HG

also this has been going on since day one... iv always smelled combustion fumes in the coolant

the only way i knew is the low coolant, the car NEVER missed a beat, never. and you can see no sleeve damage just slowly leaking inbetween the cometic layers. and theres no way i lifted the head with arp's in there.

i will however get the head checked and decked this time.

but i knew it was bad when it drank the whole coolant bottle, nice thing is of coarse i was 150+ mi from home and only have 100mi AAA. so what did i do i drove that bish 50 mi then called em... something i was willing to risk... i also think it was that way the whole 150+ mi there... cause i saw low coolant the night before, but just changed my thermo a week ago and assumed it was drinking coolant still (like it does for a week or so)


im just glad its not anything major. i always knew one day the cometic was gonna bite the dust... one day... i did the ultamite curse too, i have been bragging lately about having 20k+ mi on my build with no problems stupid me

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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damn dude, I would tear the whole motor down if I were you and inspect all bearings. My car popped and only decelled (from 145mph of course lol) and all my main bearings were shot from coolant mixing in the oil.
fucked up thing even with a blown out cylinder wall, the ****** started right up when I towed it home and still held a good idle. (only ran the car for a few seconds).

and yes you could have lifted the head on 24psi even with the arp's, my cometic didn't leak at 27psi, the block did lol.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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damn dude, I would tear the whole motor down if I were you and inspect all bearings. My car popped and only decelled (from 145mph of course lol) and all my main bearings were shot from coolant mixing in the oil.
fucked up thing even with a blown out cylinder wall, the ****** started right up when I towed it home and still held a good idle. (only ran the car for a few seconds).

and yes you could have lifted the head on 24psi even with the arp's, my cometic didn't leak at 27psi, the block did lol.
yeah but mines been leaking combustion into coolant since day one, so i know it wasent nothing that happened recently, it just got worse recently is all.

i am most def putting rod bearings, (cause they take the most force and are cheap as dirt) but as far as main i dont know about that one. honestly looking at all the bearing surfaces they look perfectly fine, it just so happens that was brand spanking new oil like 200mi so when the lubrication was watered down it wasent a dirty grity oil be grinded around it was still clean and fresh just no wear near the protection. and i babied it for those fifty mi all flat ground at 50mph with cruise on.

we will see, im not that in love with this motor anyways, i wanna do a full build with balance shaft delete and some darton sleeves, two things i skimped on the first time around.


im gonna put it back together and run the **** out of it, we have cars that come into the shop all the time with blown HG, we change the head gasket change the oil send the head to the shop and put it all back together send em on there way and tell em come back in 500mi for another oil change. and honestly im still servicing those same cars to this day. so i will take my chances there.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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hope everything turns out good for you. I should be able to find out the extent of damage to mine. But the darton sleeves are due in a few weeks.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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thanks, either way ill be alright. one good thing about being a mechanic, i flip the bird to labor charges.


being a mechanic there's signs you look for when you get a HG job to determin the extent of the damage some of them being:

did it over heat? no.
was the oil over full it was so watered down? not at all.
how do all the cam bearing surfaces and followers look? great.
was it knocking/ticking? no.
was there actual visual defects in HG? yes.
will the customer foot the bill for a new motor? **** no.


i think i'll be alright, we'll see!


the oil looks so bad cause it was so new, it would not of been that white if it was old oil.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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Damn that sucks! But the thing that i dont get is if you knew the car was eating coolant then why didnt you pull the head right away?
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
yeah but mines been leaking combustion into coolant since day one, so i know it wasent nothing that happened recently, it just got worse recently is all.

i am most def putting rod bearings, (cause they take the most force and are cheap as dirt) but as far as main i dont know about that one. honestly looking at all the bearing surfaces they look perfectly fine, it just so happens that was brand spanking new oil like 200mi so when the lubrication was watered down it wasent a dirty grity oil be grinded around it was still clean and fresh just no wear near the protection. and i babied it for those fifty mi all flat ground at 50mph with cruise on.

we will see, im not that in love with this motor anyways, i wanna do a full build with balance shaft delete and some darton sleeves, two things i skimped on the first time around.


im gonna put it back together and run the **** out of it, we have cars that come into the shop all the time with blown HG, we change the head gasket change the oil send the head to the shop and put it all back together send em on there way and tell em come back in 500mi for another oil change. and honestly im still servicing those same cars to this day. so i will take my chances there.
I hear ya, my oil only had 100 miles on it and the motor had about 1200 miles on it after a complete build (minus sleeve, which of course fucked me).
I would at least do a full tear down and check the mains.
I dunno, I'm done with my car, she's going back to s/c'd with a 75 shot with all the rest of the parts I'm leaving on the car, it'll still be fun. Can't beat a 2500lb car with 450-550whp (rx-7 ftw).
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Damn that sucks! But the thing that i dont get is if you knew the car was eating coolant then why didnt you pull the head right away?
no, it was leaking combustion to coolant since day one, not drinking coolant till yesterday

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I hear ya, my oil only had 100 miles on it and the motor had about 1200 miles on it after a complete build (minus sleeve, which of course fucked me).
I would at least do a full tear down and check the mains.
I dunno, I'm done with my car, she's going back to s/c'd with a 75 shot with all the rest of the parts I'm leaving on the car, it'll still be fun. Can't beat a 2500lb car with 450-550whp (rx-7 ftw).


well i cant pull the motor and i aint dropping the crank, (not options right now) i would rather buy a used motor and put my pistons in it... i know you would think i would wanna do it the "right way" but i feel at this time and these cond this is the right option for me.


i will drop the pan and spray the **** out of the motor with about 5 cans of break cleaner, then spray it down with WD, put it back together pour the oil on the valvetrain button that up then crank the motor with no spark till oil pressure is reached then add spark and run it 50mi drop the oil add new and call it done.

this was a very slow leak and the oil was not watered down at all still nice and thick. put it this way it took 150mi to drink that little ass coolant bottle. that is a very slow leaking HG. it wasent blown just seeping in between the layers

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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hip, how do you know it was leaking? Sometimes I'll pull my res cap and a little steam will come out, but it smells like straight dexcool nothing else. Fluid level has never changed.

If my cometic dies i'll fly to their HQ and blow it up.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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because mine would always be pressured up even if cold, and when you cracked it it smelled like rotten eggs (clear sign) and if its not that bad it may just smell like exhaust not rotten egg yet lol




i definitely am not the first to have a cometic fail under normal abuse (for a perf part)

the stock is designed for boost, cometic was supposed to be better. now we'll try the stocker.

i know one thing this aint gonna have me ***** footing it around from here on out, ima put that bish to the test!!!

from time to time i get these really loud pop out the exuast under WOT like spark blow out but never sure what it was. well i got one that night we were tuning at the very top of third under high boost pressures, i think it did damage to the HG. i did several pulls after that though


the HG is def showing damage, i'll get pics later tonight and post em up

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Whoa.. that sucks.. I knew it was water in the oil the moment the first picture showed up..lol.. be there, done that
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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that baby movvvvvveeeesssssss

sick vid's
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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HG will be here tues thanks to C.E.D. head is going to machine shop for service today. possible port and polish???

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that baby movvvvvveeeedddddddd

sick vid's


fixed ^

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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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any plans on hitting the dyno? Cant wait to see the power bandd
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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dang that sucks just another reason im not going with cometic
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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dang that sucks just another reason im not going with cosmetic
Cometic*
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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lol my bad thought it looked wrong when i typed it
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thats that peanut butter royal purple ^_^
hip why use WD? when PB blaster is the **** and the urine.
check your threads on the block and heads to make sure they
are not stripped or streatched just a friendly reminder.
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That's a sad day. It makes me weary of the 35R going on next week.
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