educated debates are awesome
"im right" "no im right, you're wrong!" debates are fail

 

or the "well why dont you come up here buddy and tell me im wrong biz nizzle"

 

Wish I had a tvs

 

but those are the funniest, stupidest, debates and i could use a good laugh

 

you can't pay for it with your food stamps jk bro

 

i like HP wars on FWD compact cars... its amusing

next topic, who has the faster golf cart...

ok.. continue...



(PS most arguing in these forums dont know what 300 whp is like in a cobalt.. )

 

how is driving a 300whp cobalt feel and how do they get the traction lol

 

spinning from a 40 roll is quite fun

 

I'm not trying to start a pissing match or a war. When you post 414 HP, it's confusing and not verfifiable without knowing the parasytic loss of the transmission.

I wouldn't have said anything but quickly a person posted that you had 370WHP. I've seen how this goes on a forum and it creates problems that are easliy avoidable. I know you didn't mean any harm but others can get confused.

In the GP forum intense claimed 850HP once. This of course was them guessing at crank HP and had no factual basis beyond that guess. Then someone said "hey man, that's over 1000HP!" (thinking the 850 was off a chassis dyno) This then turned into intense dyno'ing over 1000HP to the wheels and people talking about it as fact. See the issue? Pretty soon we could be reading posts about 900HP Cobalts with the stock blower, LOL.

I'm currently emailing with a customer who says that his balt is 550WHP. I didn't argue with him but he's still got the M62 on this car. He even gave some dyno sheets with torque over 700 ft/lbs. I don't think he was lying, just misinformed of what is possible. I'm just trying to avoid the newbs getting confused when I ask that we keep to one HP standard for all of us posting.

 

300 hp in a balt with over 330wtq + semi bald tires = spin til 3rd gear.... and a lil after depending if the car is feeling spunky

 

spin spin spin
shift
spin spin spin
shift
spin spin torque steer
shift



the amount of air flow required to push past the limits of the head goes up exponentially after a certain point. pushing this barrier harder will result in severe issues in the combustion chamber itself. can it be done? yes. is it wise? not really. 30psi to make 450 whp vs 22whp to make the same on a ported head. efficiency is key.

 

i wouldnt mind spinning from a 40 roll...that just means my 60 pulls will be more fun
torque converters help get some traction too

 

i understand man, no qualms here.


550 eh? how much bottle is involved

 

You get traction but u need the right tires . And you can say 300 is the average for the stock pulley buy I wouldn't say for the tvs ad a whole

 

3rd gear 50 rolls are the ****!

 

wow i miscalculated...lol i accidently did 10% drivetrain loss instead of 15%. i must have missed the 5 key. sorry guys

 

Got dynoed....

 

for the TC, not such a great spot for m62 cars

 

Got dynoed....?

 

april 11th but i lessen the numbers cause i don't wanna over state what i have the two people bone stock before me got the same tune only dyno'd there cars also both put down around 310whp and 340wtq...... so i just took ten off of each and said that is about where i am at (don't wanna over shoot)

btw mustang dyno not dynojet

and yes it is a semi/very aggresive tune

really? i would've figured one with some decent power would love that area..... supercharger ftw?

 

just not in 3rd gear. 2nd gear at 50 is pretty damn good. lol

 

lol yeah all of our cars love second gear 40/50 rolls...... soooooo much tq!

 

Doing a quick calculation, I can see that Area is using a factor of 15% drive train loss for a Cobalt. That is obviously the stock 5 speed. That makes me a little curious as to what to expect from the Quiafe 6 speed conversion. The individual gears are a little wider, so, they will take power to run. I get that. Does the fact that the gears are far less helical in cut also effect their power consumption? Anyone care to venture a guess as to what I should be considering as a power loss factor across the 6 speed?

 

whoa..... wait..... 6speed?

 

Yea... TTR sells em...