2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Here is the chart testing the car at different PSI levels. Now keep in mind, these were not optimized at each boost level. All we did was change the boost. The 13psi run ended up at 11.5 AF ratio. Changing it to 12.6 (safe for that boost level) and adding timing would have netted us closer to 300WHP (esimating).

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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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What is the command afr? i may have a fix to why you are over fueling.
ima go out on a limb here and say that if zooomer is truly making 465 whp on a car with his set up..he doesnt need help adjusting an afr
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Chris' car is making 23psi by 3k rpm!


One of the problems is that there are two boost controllers and if you don't set them right, you could have a serious boost problem with the blower not kicking out and letting the turbo take over. This is one reason why we aren't shipping kits and we are going to give Chris very detailed instructions. Basically have you have to have the blower boost controller set to a lower psi than the turbo boost controller or the blower will never kick out.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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hey zoomer, with the 2 stage intercooling what kind of IAT2's are you guys seeing after a few hard pulls?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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http://www.zzperformance.com/miscftp...harge23psi.mpg

Try that with a turbo only build!
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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damn thats crazy.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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wow. but how is it from like 1k rpm on not 3k?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
wow. but how is it from like 1k rpm on not 3k?
Is that a serious question? This pull was started at 30 mph in 3rd gear. The 3-4 shift point is above 100 mph. I can't imagine any logical reason to test any lower in the RPM band than this.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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The lower RPM range is where there's lag which is why he wanted to see how the thing reacted from 1000 RPM's upward. 3rd gear/30 MPH and you're already at 2000 RPM's...The turbo's pretty much spooled up by that point...
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:35 PM
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yes exactly
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Don't worry freakta I got cha back. It would have to be one big ass turbo not to be pretty much spooled up by 2000 RPM's from what I understand about turbos...
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
Don't worry freakta I got cha back. It would have to be one big ass turbo not to be pretty much spooled up by 2000 RPM's from what I understand about turbos...
It is a big turbo, and it would not even begin to spool at 2000 RPM without the blower. The advantage of this turbo is that it will keep making efficient power past 30psi for those who build a complete package to support this. A turbo setup that fully spools by 2000 RPMs on a 2.0 would not be nearly as efficient at high RPMs and high boost levels.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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youd be suprized, thats why all companies use tiny turbos on there cars cause they dont want lag anywhere.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Cant wait to see the finishing project...must see vids!!
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
youd be suprized, thats why all companies use tiny turbos on there cars cause they dont want lag anywhere.
Certainly, small turbos are great for quick response, but switching from a supercharger to a tiny turbo is only a small upgrade. Our twincharge kit is designed to add well over 100 HP to an already modified SS/SC. The turbo on this car can fully spool by 3000 RPM and still support over 600 HP. Overall, I'd say it's a pretty versatile setup.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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if anyone is going wot at 1k rpms you need to be shot
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
if anyone is going wot at 1k rpms you need to be shot
::grabs shield awaiting for bullets::
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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::grabs lube and awaits you to bend over::
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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::grabs loob and awaits you to bend over::
wtf is loob? lol...o u sneaky bastard he
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
wtf is loob? lol...o u sneaky bastard he
stop ninja editing my posts.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
stop ninja editing my posts.
stop being black, so i can see you once in a while
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 04redline0124
stop being black, so i can see you once in a while
Your sister see's me just fine . i likes it hairy
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkmanx
Your sister see's me just fine . i likes it hairy
this is chris' sister jackass, he is just tellin me what to type
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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haha comic relief is great... amazing pull with the zzp setup. great job guys
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tazmanian_Dvl
Don't worry freakta I got cha back. It would have to be one big ass turbo not to be pretty much spooled up by 2000 RPM's from what I understand about turbos...
http://www.zzperformance.com/miscftp/ZZP-vs-H-Dyno.jpg

The Hahn kit making 360WHP doesn't reach spool til 4500 rpm. I'm not sure why we have so many haters on this forum but it's getting out of hand. I feel like there is nothing we can do without getting flamed.

checkout our vid, spools instantly. yeah but can it spool at 2k rpm to 23psi?
We made 465WHP, yeah but the motor will probably blow up and what will it make on a customer's car?
Our kit made 400WHP on a customers car. yeah but I bet it won't on another dyno
We just outdid any TVS car by like 100WHP. yeah but the TVS isn't tuned.
Our kit makes 350ft lbs, yeah but you won't be able to launch.
Check out this dyno. yeah but you don't have the rpm.
Here's on with rpm. yeah but it doesn't go down to 2k

The list never ends, it's like hater central around here. WTF do we have to do for some respect and props?

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