Ok at the risk of sounding very ignorant!!

When these turbo balts come out other then a custom throttle body and most likely a stand alone unit what do yall think would be needed to add the new turbo to my ss/sc cause 1 way or another i am going to twin charge my balt.

 

It can be done without a custom standalone. You'll have to find at which pressures both the turbo and supercharger is most efficient at while providing reasonably sane boost and change to that size pulley and adjust the turbo's wastegate accordingly.

 

Sorry, but if the big boys, like Hahn Racecraft, can't get it to work properly, then you likely are not going to have great success doing it either.

 

Man I have this book I just bought a couple of days ago where they twin charge a 2.0 with an M62 and they get it to work beautifully. Would anyone be interested in seeing this? I suppose i could scan the pages. It is a full instruction book on front to back twin charge on a 2.0 (non ecotec, i cant remember what motor they use) with an M62.....

 

Its been done by at least 2 people I can think of with great results. One did it without even using HPTuners.

 

nice yea i would love to see it at least the cover so i can go look at it in the store

 

You can also check out the Mini Cooper forums. I believe there are 2 retail kits that are offered for those guys which you can research that may help you in designing your own. Theres a local guy here with one and it sounds pretty bad ass on the road course.

 

REALLY....... damn thats nice.....

this is about a year off from now so i can get the $$ in order and buy a cheeeeep junker car to drive while this thing is getting built.

 

Ill bring it to work tomorrow and scan the pages. They basically supercharged the car, got it to run right in the middle of its efficiency range, then took the supercharger off, added the turbo and got IT to run in its efficiency range, then added them both on the engine. It made like 350hp i wanna say on a very low tech 2.0. Id be willing to bet you could get 350 reliable hp out of a twincharge with the right supporting mods.

 

good looking out... ill check them when i have some time this evening

 

Do you know where the thread is for this person without HP? Id love to do this....

 

There's a redline with 332 WHP and 305 TQ twincharged

I'm interested

Dyno of twincharged

 

thats sexy.... whos is that?

 

I found it doing a search in google. There's also a video

 

The pictures of the one above was built without the help of HPTuners. It wasn't until just before he sold the car did he use HPT. He used an SMT6 with an extra set of injectors iirc.

 

that gave it away as to who it is!

well to me at least

 

I'll have to look but wasn't it done almost 2 years ago now?

 

as far as i can remember yep. it has been a long time since i have seen his screen name pop up anywhere

 

who who who

 

the LNF is directinjected(like a turbo diesel) which means like 20,000 psi fuel injector setup... good luck with poping your motor if you think you can get thats turbo to work on a SS/SC. do it custom like the twincharged RL above. or jus turbo it.

 

i can blow up anything. just give me 5 mins.

 

Direct injection has nothing to do with the turbo used. This is a confusing post.

 

Im saying it might be possible to just use a really small turbo. Like off of a stock VR4 or a TSI. You wouldnt have to spend 3K on the setup. You would just route the outlet of the turbo to the inlet of the super. The PCM should theoretically take care of the rest right? I mean it will just think the supercharger has a REALLY small pulley on it. The thing that would be nice about it is that you could just run the stock pulley on the M62 and get a real small turbo and have 300 reliable HP for a minimal cost. Im sure you could get a little turbo for like $100 or something. Someone chime in if I am completely off....

 

im liking this option more and more as i think about it. and just like going to a smaller pulley it would require upgraded injectors and such. hum i still dont see how this was done without HPT

 

the only thing that concerned me was heat from the turbo but if 300whp is acheived with minimal heat thats all I wanted to get to in the first place. I have seen a few videos of these rare twin charged cobalts and it is uber sexy hearing a whine then a blow off valve.