2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Redline was just turbo?
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Redline was just turbo?
Hahn Racecraft turbo with everything done to everything, cept internals. Thing feels fast as hell when your in it but its actually isnt that fast. Compared to me thats saying though.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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thats odd.........
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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There will be videos and all sorts of stuff I will release on all the forums when I get done actually getting footage of us at the track and I finish compiling it. The car im talking about was the first LSJ with a pulley, the first twincharged, and ironically the first with a full turbo swap.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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wow thats crazy.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Huh, what kind of three fingered monkeytard did they let drive it?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Well it makes sence if you think about it the supercharger dose not create back pressure turbos do. Say in an ideal world you have a super verses a turbo and they have the exact same hp/tq the super will always win. The super is one sided and helps the motor rev quickly turbos dont because they plug up the exaust. Thats why turbo motors dont last as long as supercharged motors. turbo motors get pressure on both sides of the stroke exaust and intake.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by FLCobalt
read my new forum rule.

we are talking about twincharging with TWO superchargers.

READ.... Comprehend... post.
Sorry princess!

Ever hear of a typo?
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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First off, roots chargers don't create boost internally, they compress air in the manifold. If you force feed 600cfm with 1 s/c to get 18psi and then use 2 s/c to force 600 cfm into the same amount of space you will still get 18psi. the more cfm in the same amount of space the more boost.

The downside to haveing 2 S/C is you would have to spin them slower to equal the boost you want. The slower you spin a roots, the less efficient it becomes.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
First off, roots chargers don't create boost internally, they compress air in the manifold. If you force feed 600cfm with 1 s/c to get 18psi and then use 2 s/c to force 600 cfm into the same amount of space you will still get 18psi. the more cfm in the same amount of space the more boost.

The downside to haveing 2 S/C is you would have to spin them slower to equal the boost you want. The slower you spin a roots, the less efficient it becomes.
Yes they are less efficient at moving air at slower speed but they would not build up as much heat. And the point of using two supers would be to double the effective cfm. It is ironic that we push such high boost numbers for the small amount of cfm we put in the motor. My theory is that our cam shafts are grossly under sized and lacking in durration as far as valve timing events are conserned. Thus building more manifold pressure the guys that are running 19+ psi arn't seing as big of gain as they would be with larger cam shafts. If you had larger cams it would effectivly alow more air into the motor and reduce boost psi but greatly improve HP.

OK im just kind of blabbin me be a we bit sleepy
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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If your looking for power through two superchargers, why don't you just sell your cobalt, and save all the money needed for work to convert that balt into a 2 SC, use that money and get a car that has more power to start off with?

And i'm with 90% of the guys on this thread.. Why would you want to run this route?

And if you do do this, make a custom hood with a fat hole in the front of it so you can stack your two SC's on top of each other.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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UMMMMMM yeh nevermind ^^^^^
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gory
UMMMMMM yeh nevermind ^^^^^
Yeah, nevermind.. Just go to bed.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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Cry about it!!!

Some people like to take a slow car and make it fast... get it.

Look at victoryredSS hes going to make 750hp!!
But hes just wasting his time I guess(sarcasm)
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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LOL. I will cry about just because I don't have the time or the materials to do it myself to my car.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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twin supers huh? I saw it done with 2 eaton SC's in a mini cooper. Saw it at HIN a while back. The plumbing alone will be a nightmare bro, not to mention the custom snout. Good luck
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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I know it would take a new hood and i dont think plumbing would be a problem because there isnt, turbo is out of the question want something dif. anyways I emailed whipple didnt reply though.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:29 AM
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I know it would take a new hood and i dont think plumbing would be a problem because there isnt, turbo is out of the question want something dif. anyways I emailed whipple didnt reply though.
wouldnt u need an air to air intercooler i think. otherwise AIT2 temps will get hot!
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Is it possible to make this happen with our cars comments please. Using two of our superchargers custom manifold or adapter obvious...

what's the point? it would totally eliminate any traction you had in first and second gear and i dont even think it's possible. You would have to have the belt running thru both pulleys cause you cant run two belts on a single pulley. or you'd have to make some kind of extendo pulley so both belts could fit. it'd cost an insane amount of money if you could do it.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Me personaly Im going to go with one larger Autorotor supercharger just cant decide what size yet.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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what's the point? it would totally eliminate any traction you had in first and second gear and i dont even think it's possible. You would have to have the belt running thru both pulleys cause you cant run two belts on a single pulley. or you'd have to make some kind of extendo pulley so both belts could fit. it'd cost an insane amount of money if you could do it.
You can pull timing or bleed boost for first and second gear.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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You can pull timing or bleed boost for first and second gear.

or have a little midget that installs the second blower once you can get traction with it.
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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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or have a little midget that installs the second blower once you can get traction with it.
midgets come in handy for so much stuff... I love the little bastards
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cartercar
I know it would take a new hood and i dont think plumbing would be a problem because there isnt, turbo is out of the question want something dif. anyways I emailed whipple didnt reply though.
I have talked with whipple a few times as well as some others. They are not making and will not make a s/c small enough for our application. I even tried Kenne Bell, but they just didn't want to support the community, they have an s/c that would be about the right size, but youcan only buy it in the kit for a 4.0 I6 jeep and it costs $4,000. That's without tuning for the Cobalt or adapters to make it fit on a Cobalt.
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