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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Twincharging...

Hey guys,
I'm ready to purchase a twincharge kit for my 05 SS/SC, & I'm basically wondering other than buying and installing the twincharge kit. What other mods do we have to do to our cars so as not to break anything or blow the motor?

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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Axles, clutch, brakes (for safety). That's about it as far as i can remember. There may be more things, but those are the big ones.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Umm why the hell would you EVER upgrade the brakes in this car? That'd just be a waste of money.

All you'd need dude is some axles and a clutch down the road whenever you blow the stocker. However, if you want big power and want to make sure your motor doesn't go blowing up out of nowhere your gonna wanna upgrade your pistons but beside that your gold.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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where are u getting the twin charge package?
what website?
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Greekstyle24
where are u getting the twin charge package?
what website?
I believe hahn has released their twincharge kit. not sure

http://www.hahnracecraft.com/Project...t/CobaltSS.htm
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Umm why the hell would you EVER upgrade the brakes in this car? That'd just be a waste of money.

All you'd need dude is some axles and a clutch down the road whenever you blow the stocker. However, if you want big power and want to make sure your motor doesn't go blowing up out of nowhere your gonna wanna upgrade your pistons but beside that your gold.
of course you need bigger breakes/ stronger brakes. he will be going way faster so he will need that extra stopping power. dont u ever watch car shows when they upgrade their engines they upgrade their brakes and other stuff 2.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Umm why the hell would you EVER upgrade the brakes in this car? That'd just be a waste of money.

All you'd need dude is some axles and a clutch down the road whenever you blow the stocker. However, if you want big power and want to make sure your motor doesn't go blowing up out of nowhere your gonna wanna upgrade your pistons but beside that your gold.
Depending on how much you are planning on upgrading, the following items are really recommended.

For the base (Stage 2) I would upgrade your suspension (springs) and mounts (actually anyone should do this for the SS/SC)

For additional power above that (lets call it 260+hp to 300hp) in addition I would upgrade the brakes (including the lines to braided stainless steel) the clutch and your fuel supply (injectors) and invest in a custom tune - PROVIDED YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RACE

Power above 300hp or racing - all of the above plus your axles, change the clutch to an even stronger one, look at a short throw shifter, very good shocks, start looking at true performance tires and expect to change them out a lot

The above is just a guideline, but remember that increasing performance is not just adding power, you need to change other things on/in the car and one of the most important is safety.

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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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yes i truly agree with you.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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the only reason the tv shows upgrade brakes is because they run them on a road course. if you just gonna drive on the street with a little drag strip racing on weekends you do not need to waste money on brake upgrades.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrous818
of course you need bigger breakes/ stronger brakes. he will be going way faster so he will need that extra stopping power. dont u ever watch car shows when they upgrade their engines they upgrade their brakes and other stuff 2.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Havent You Seen That Sald Chopper On Tv That Never Dulls! Dont Bellieve Everything You See On Tv Brother Brakes Are A Good Idea But Not Necessary. More Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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thnx to everyone for your input so far i really appretiate it.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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The brakes on the SS/SC are great, you really don't need to upgrade them unless you are going to be road racing and then you should focus on slotted rotors and things like that to disapait the heat. Otherwise the brakes are fine for street use.

You need to get instrumentation to monitor what's going on with your car. A wideband AF gauge is a most, an EGT wouldn't hurt either. Then you need to get some cooling mods like a heat exchanger, maybe a meth kit and/or cryo kit. Axles and a clutch are a must and while you've got the clutch out you might as well get a new flywheel. Some mounts and/or traction bars would be good to so you can actually hook up the extra power.

Other then that it depends on how much power you want to make, but everything I listed is a pretty much the basic supporting mods that anyone that's going to go much past stock should have in their car.

Good luck and let us see your updates when they happen.
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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IMADreamer
The brakes on the SS/SC are great, you really don't need to upgrade them unless you are going to be road racing and then you should focus on slotted rotors and things like that to disapait the heat. Otherwise the brakes are fine for street use.
They are only fine if you are NOT ever planning on exceeding the speed limit or do not plan to accelerate as quick as possible to the posted speed limit. WIth urban driving you are going to have to be braking a LOT soon, and trust me, the standard brakes are not the most suitable for this.

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... while you've got the clutch out you might as well get a new flywheel.
Damn I knew I forgot something on the high end.

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 02:56 AM
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Wow some of you guys are rediculous.

The cobalt ss stops at 119 from 60-0

in comparison

a bugatti veyron stops 60-0 in 111 ft

please try and convince yourself that better brakes are NEEDED.

btw I love this quote:
dont u ever watch car shows when they upgrade their engines they upgrade their brakes and other stuff 2.
If you were wearing a 2 Fast 2 Furious racing jacket while writing this I wouldn't be suprised.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Wow some of you guys are rediculous.

The cobalt ss stops at 119 from 60-0

in comparison

a bugatti veyron stops 60-0 in 111 ft

please try and convince yourself that better brakes are NEEDED.

btw I love this quote:


If you were wearing a 2 Fast 2 Furious racing jacket while writing this I wouldn't be suprised.
The Veyron's curb weight is over 4100 lbs...

Ours is under 3000 lbs... That much weight makes a BIG difference when it comes to stopping.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shermen
the only reason the tv shows upgrade brakes is because they run them on a road course. if you just gonna drive on the street with a little drag strip racing on weekends you do not need to waste money on brake upgrades.
maybe not calipers, but definitly rotors. the rotors on the ss s/c SUCK ASS. they warp like crazy under heat from high speed braking. get some cross drilled/slotted ones and some good pads. u should be ok

Originally Posted by Dark-Fx
The Veyron's curb weight is over 4100 lbs...

Ours is under 3000 lbs... That much weight makes a BIG difference when it comes to stopping.
thats true. but the stopping power is there on the cobalt. it just makes too much heat, warping the rotors.

Last edited by chevysalesman614; Apr 1, 2007 at 10:21 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaJaguar5
Wow some of you guys are rediculous.

The cobalt ss stops at 119 from 60-0

in comparison

a bugatti veyron stops 60-0 in 111 ft

please try and convince yourself that better brakes are NEEDED.
Read yourself. It is not about how fast you are going when you have a nice long stretch in front of you or when you have plenty of time to stop. This car needs better braking because of how fast you can accelerate when you start modding it and the resulting decrease in tim eto slow down. Where my previous car could get up to 60 between one set of stop lights this one can get to over 100 and if you hit the lights wrong, you are going to have to stop fast. Real fast.

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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Your brakes can never be big enough, period, bigger is always better

As for drivetrain mods internally you will need new pistons, head gasket and ARP head studs
externally solid upper mount or torque dampener, stronger axles, clutch and flywheel thats stronger, traction bars, control arm bushings, and depending on your comfort level tranny mounts

After that stuff you should be pretty much bulletproof
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