What mod would we need to have so we can beat a stock srt-4, will a exhaust intake pulley do the trick?

 

unless you plan on fixing your car yourselves and have some technical know-how... only get the gm stg kit and gm upgrades.... we've been blowin up left and right out here...

 

get the gm stage 2 and a driver mod...

you have no idea how easy it is to beat people if you know how to drive....

as in know how to go without spinning your tires

i was about even with a srt4 with a intake and bov with only my gm stage 2 but spinning the tires made me lose

 

I have Stg2 with CAI & Ingals dampener and I had no problem taking a stock SRT 3 times in a row as I think both cars are even up stock anyway.

It was pretty cool as he had his girlfriend in the car & was trying to show off & he got beat all 3 times the guy was cool as we talked a bit after the race, he had never even seen a Cobalt, so I showed him the rear end alot

I heard he was at the Saturday night street races & upped his boost to 27lbs so he said & the next week the SRT was broken but I can't figure out how he would have just upped his boost unless the SRT guys can easly mod there pop off valve.
I think he was talking **** to my friends as he talked about getting spanked by a red Cobalt earler that day then all the sudden he states he's running 27lbs of boost !

 

I think they can up the boost with a boost controller. Dont quote me on this, im no turbo expert. As for the original question. I would say get stage 2 and exhaust and you be able to take a stock one.

 

stock srt 4=230 hp, stock cobalt=205.. both are underrated so dont go screaming that the cobalt is underrated. SRT wins about 2 semi lenghts or more. Stock SRT also smokes a stage 2 with no other mods. Stage2 with CAI would probably run about even with a srt-4, or beat him by a small margin- unless theres a real bad driver in the srt. Now, you say he had the boost cranked on his srt to 27.. in which case he probably had a boost controller which can come standard with a stage 2 and stage 3 neon (option known as 'toys') So its possible he mighta been the rare neon with a stage 3 putting out 350 hp, but just had his boost running real low.. Either way, if a srt was running 27 lbs of boost you wouldn't stand a chance.

P.S. I drive a standard 2.0 neon, my best bud drives a stock srt-4, another friend drives a stock balt s/c, and one drives a gm stage2 balt. All the info I've given is after many many many runs with those cars.

 

DUDE! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! PLEASE TELL ME YOUR JOKING!

 

hmmmm.....with my mods below, I beat a stage 1 SRT-4, with ECU upgrade, CAI, and boost controller

 

lol nah

 

How do you figure? I have intense stage 3 it's been on for about 4 months and I havn't had any problems and my a/f numbers are good too

 

Wow u should really learn about **** before you start running your mouth because your dead wrong I can put about 3-4 cars on an SRT-4 with exhaust and all I have is Stage 2 so idk wtf u are talking about.

Further more when I was bone stock i lost to an SRT-4 by a car length so two "semi" lengths is bullshit.

 

I'm running a c/a stg V 2.55 pulley and what not... just seen a few break lately... just throwing out a word of caution... one motor and quite a few trannies... couple of axles... none of which will be covered by warranty...
not trying to be a dick.... just letting people know whats going on.

 

intense stage 4 over here... cracked pistons .............. not good for buisness

 

Ok I drive a Semi and thats like 154 feet man.
Thats like 8-9 cars.

Stock the SRT4 runs about 3ths faster then we do. Thats about 1 car. And most of that has to do with the tires we have and fact that stock to stock that SRT4 has beter traction off the line.

Change your tires and get rid of all tha whel hop and they should run dead even.
Get stage 2, a 2.8 pully, intake, and a catt back and you should be able to pull 1-3 cars on a stage 1 SRT4 depending one the driver.

I ran my brothers 91 S10 Extended cab with a 400hp 350 and 350turbo trans and beat him by 1/2 to 1 cat 3 out of 3 races. He was PISSED!
He has more money in his truck then I do in my car and lost after braging for months that there was no way I would even keep up with him.

The car is faster then people giv it credit for. Even the owners of the car some times done give it what its do.

Later

 

alright i might disagree with some of what he says but u need to calm the hell down

a lot of what he says is true but there is no way its semi lengths

it is straight up car length srt-4 beats a cobalt ss/sc that doesnt mean a cobalt cant beat a srt-4 stock 2 stock or a srt-4 cant beat a cobalt by 2 semi lengths

both of those can happen depending on each driver

so the best advice is to learn how do drive your car because atleast 75% of people dont know how to drive theres and all their power can only get them so far

 

i LOVE the driver mod, best 5 dollas of my life

 

First your running stage 5......and a 2.55" pulley...Why are you comparing your car to a stage II kit, besides that yours isn't made by gm and of course its not covered in the waranty....but A person with gm stage II is going ot have a warranty, and i seriously doubt hes gonna break any axles or his engine, And unless hes powershifting at everywhere and grinding the gears his trannie is going to be fine,

Oh, and ALOT has to do with the driver, not just who has the "Faster" Car

 

Still a Neon...

 

I wasn't saying anything about a faster car wasn't comparing my car to a gm stg II... I 've seen completely stock ones broken at the dealerships around here and they're all bein refused warranty work...
and when it comes to driver... I've been racing semi-professionally for about 12 years now... so yeah driver is important...

 

they will not cover clutch or axles under warranty if they feel the car has been abused

 

or tranny either... someone posted the bulliten up about it.... but they seem like they just automatically call abuse without even looking into the problem./.. which really sucks... but if they market a car as a "sports" car... then it should be able to handle alittle abuse IMO...

 

No I wasn't exaggerating when I said 2 semi lengths, that was an actual race we have a vid of. Granted, the srt-4 driver is awsome and the cobalt driver is in experienced and not the best driver, so it does even it out a little now. Still, stock srt-4 wins, even over gm stage two, even with driver swap.

Also might be worth note, a 2003 srt4 would be a little more even with a cobalt than a 2004+, 2003 was 215HP then in 2004 they went up to 230hp. Also, putting exhaust on a stock srt actually nerfs the power, as its sized really good for stock. Only once you get into stage 2 and 3 would a more clear exhaust be advantageous.

Dont get me wrong, I wish the cobalt was a better contender with the srt-4, my best bud with the srt talks way to much ****. The fact is it just isn't.

 

i still have to disagree with the fact that i still think a gm stage 2 can beat a stock srt-4

like i said before i raced a srt-4 with a aem intake and bov and all i had was gm stage 2 and i spun at first but the rest of the way we were the same distance apart... he won by a carlength but if i had a driver mod and not mashed it going 20 then im sure i couldve beat him

 

i raced a stock srt 4 when i was stock we dead even threw 3rd and had to shut down do to traffic....

 

the 03 srt-4 and 04-05 srt4 put down similar dyno numbers.. so the HP didnt jump to 230.. it remained the same. the only difference was the 04/05 got the stage 1 injectors stock and the quaife lsd came stock (not available on 03's)~~~~but power output didnt change

stock for stock with similar drivers.. the srt4 is about a car infront of the ss/sc. a stock srt4 can up the boost with a boost controller to approx 17psi, with it tailing off at the top of the rev limit. and for an srt4 to run more than 18psi, he needs to upgrade to an aftermarket BOV bc the stock one will leak after 18psi.

bro.. semi-lengths on stock vs gm stage 2??? somethin is up wit either that cobalt or that srt4 bc its just not physically possible on two working cars driven with similar skill.. .