What Should We Install?
Originally Posted by xxdarkbladexx
First your running stage 5......and a 2.55" pulley...Why are you comparing your car to a stage II kit, besides that yours isn't made by gm and of course its not covered in the waranty....but A person with gm stage II is going ot have a warranty, and i seriously doubt hes gonna break any axles or his engine, And unless hes powershifting at everywhere and grinding the gears his trannie is going to be fine,
Oh, and ALOT has to do with the driver, not just who has the "Faster" Car
Oh, and ALOT has to do with the driver, not just who has the "Faster" Car
Last edited by 2K5SS/SC?; Oct 4, 2006 at 01:09 AM.
Oh and this **** about an SRT-4 railing the hell out of an SS/SC is bullshit. Stock for stock with my buddies 05 srt-4 we were dead even. I put on Stage2 and an exhaust, and there wasn't even a competition. This was proved on even lightly modded SRT-4s as I have three buddies that own them. Each one received an A$$ whooping that night except for the one that was pushing some hefty mods. One buddy put on the Mopar Stage 1, TBE, and an AGP wastegate making the car a stage 2 and now whoops my ass by a few car lengths. His 20psi to redline vs. my 16.5-17psi at redline now only makes 3 lengths which isn't bad considering he has a lot more power than I do. Some people on here seriously need to learn how to drive their cars better, keep them in their very picky powerband, and stop hating on their own rides.
Last edited by 2K5SS/SC?; Oct 4, 2006 at 01:07 AM.
Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Oh and this **** about an SRT-4 railing the hell out of an SS/SC is bullshit. Stock for stock with my buddies 06 srt-4 we were dead even. I put on Stage2 and an exhaust, and there wasn't even a competition. This was proved on even lightly modded SRT-4s as I have three buddies that own them. Each one received an A$$ whooping that night except for the one that was pushing some hefty mods. One buddy put on the Mopar Stage 1, TBE, and an AGP wastegate making the car a stage 2 and now whoops my ass by a few car lengths. His 20psi to redline vs. my 16.5-17psi at redline now only makes 3 lengths which isn't bad considering he has a lot more power than I do. Some people on here seriously need to learn how to drive their cars better, keep them in their very picky powerband, and stop hating on their own rides.
Originally Posted by Allshot
I think they can up the boost with a boost controller. Dont quote me on this, im no turbo expert. As for the original question. I would say get stage 2 and exhaust and you be able to take a stock one.
A boost controller on an SRT-4 will allow you to up the boost. However, the stock wastegate will bleed it off, since it isn't strong enough to hold the extra boost. That is why they do the "spring mod" or buy a better wastegate like the AGP one.
Well, I know what I've witnessed and thats all what matters, I didn't come here to flame cobalt owners, cause I was/am thinking of getting one, but when I see such blatent stupidness its hard to resist. Something none of you can argue about, at least the neon doesn't fall apart after 6 months of driving. I've never seen a car forum where so many owners just want to rid themselves of the rides they're there to talk about.
Just be happy that for some reason I can't even begin to explain, the cobalt rapes the neon(hell, even my SXT neon) in insurance rates.
Also might be worth note, theres alot of srt-4 owners that do mods that just hinder their cars. Srts were actually built pretty good straight from the shop- so things like exhausts, BOVs.. piddly **** like that just isn't neccessary. CAI about the best basic thing to do to em.
Now, yall wanna shut up for good? Go put 3 grand into an srt-4 for a stage 3. Then dump 3 grand into your cobalt and go race.. then cry when the neon is waiting for you at the end of the track.
disclaimer: being a neon owner doesn't make this post any less true, actually I hate my neon. Inside is nice, and it doesn't look bad, but my stock is too slow and its an automatic too. Don't think I'm hating on the cobalt just cause I like srt-4s. i hate on the srt-4 guys too sometimes.
Just be happy that for some reason I can't even begin to explain, the cobalt rapes the neon(hell, even my SXT neon) in insurance rates.
Also might be worth note, theres alot of srt-4 owners that do mods that just hinder their cars. Srts were actually built pretty good straight from the shop- so things like exhausts, BOVs.. piddly **** like that just isn't neccessary. CAI about the best basic thing to do to em.
Now, yall wanna shut up for good? Go put 3 grand into an srt-4 for a stage 3. Then dump 3 grand into your cobalt and go race.. then cry when the neon is waiting for you at the end of the track.
disclaimer: being a neon owner doesn't make this post any less true, actually I hate my neon. Inside is nice, and it doesn't look bad, but my stock is too slow and its an automatic too. Don't think I'm hating on the cobalt just cause I like srt-4s. i hate on the srt-4 guys too sometimes.
we are actually putting in less than 3 grand on my partners car, Ljavy. We are going full turbo on his balt. Bring the stage 3 srt4. Ill be nice and give him some toulene and 105 octane so he can HOM. Ljavy will be in the 400's! I had a stage 3 srt4 myself BTW. 3 grand in a balt goes far homey.
I don't street race much but occasionally I will to shut people up so far I haven't lost to a neon (except for 1 stg 3 that runs 11.xx and a 50 trim one thats at 469 whp.) but I"ve taken down a few stg II w/ toys.. always fun
Someone give me three grand and I'll do it. This sounds like a challenge. I'll even use the stock pistons to try it too, just for pucker factor!
Turbo I want: $1000
HPTuners: $500
Turbo Manifold: $150-$500 depends on log or tubular
BOV: $100
Custom Fab TB adaptor: $30 for materials, freebee made by me
Pipes and lines: $100
Injectors: $200
Pro-Tune: $500
Water/meth injection kit: $300
$2780-$3130 total, and I guarantee the would at least keep up with the Stage 3 SRT-4!
Turbo I want: $1000
HPTuners: $500
Turbo Manifold: $150-$500 depends on log or tubular
BOV: $100
Custom Fab TB adaptor: $30 for materials, freebee made by me
Pipes and lines: $100
Injectors: $200
Pro-Tune: $500
Water/meth injection kit: $300
$2780-$3130 total, and I guarantee the would at least keep up with the Stage 3 SRT-4!
Last edited by 2K5SS/SC?; Oct 4, 2006 at 09:35 AM.
Ummm... I'll make a list you guys an add it up
C/A heat exchanger $360
C/A tune $125
Snow meth kit $349
ZZP 2.55 pulley w/hub $99
Siemens Injectors $239
Inj Harness $39.99
adj tens $40 used
Gm STGII belt $32
ZZP engine mount $125 used
Intense trans insert $40 used
Axles $525 (thanks rob)
XTC intake $180
C/A header $199.99
C/A 3" downpipe $285
C/A 3" side exit (prototype)
B&M Sport Shifter $145
thats just the performance stuff I can remember... you guys can tally it up
C/A heat exchanger $360
C/A tune $125
Snow meth kit $349
ZZP 2.55 pulley w/hub $99
Siemens Injectors $239
Inj Harness $39.99
adj tens $40 used
Gm STGII belt $32
ZZP engine mount $125 used
Intense trans insert $40 used
Axles $525 (thanks rob)
XTC intake $180
C/A header $199.99
C/A 3" downpipe $285
C/A 3" side exit (prototype)
B&M Sport Shifter $145
thats just the performance stuff I can remember... you guys can tally it up
I'm sitting at $3570 with my mods. I did have to pay for some lift time and help from my buddies too, but that's not inluded with that total. Thank god for me doing all my own work with some assistance every now and then! I.E. it's hard to lift a tranny by yourself, and setting the timing too.
this isn't factoring other mods I have
Ingalls torque damper $169.00
Aem Wideband $299.99
Aeroforce Interceptor $219.00
Cobalt-addiction 2 gauge pillar pod $79
and I"m sure I"m forgetting something
Ingalls torque damper $169.00
Aem Wideband $299.99
Aeroforce Interceptor $219.00
Cobalt-addiction 2 gauge pillar pod $79
and I"m sure I"m forgetting something
Originally Posted by Smooth23
btw, if we're talking self installs.. a srt stage3 can be picked up for about $1500 or so..
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx/srt4_index.shtml
http://www.modernperformance.com/dcx...tage3kit.shtml
stop bsing plz. where the **** can u get a stage 3 for 1500 dollars? What are you trying to prove and why are u making it so easy to PWN u?
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