my thing is i dont like the look of the pacesetter

 

get something that flows less and will look pretty for a little longer lol i'm just saying what's best for function

 

i know what ur saying dont get me wrong there just the pacesetter one looke like theres cheap and slaped together

 

you can buy the stainless steel one if you need something pretty that noone will ever see lol.
buy whatever you feel like if you want the most out of it you'll pass on the ebay one, like i said, reason that zzp's header is almost a mirror of the pacesetter, and some of the highest hp cars were running on a pacesetter.

 

im looking at the pacesetter one off of summit racing

 

but i wnat one that i dont have to wait a week for shipping

 

again im not sure what you wanna do with your car, if you're not thinking above zzps3 then the ebay one might not be far off for you, personally i don't like them though. i may be biased from the number of cobalt addiction ones i've seen that were ganked up lol.

 

im not going past my 60 and 2.8 thats all i want out of the car so maybe bad mab will be fine then

 

yea would be the easy way out then

 

lol u make it sound like im cheap hahah

 

unless you have a big ******* turbo or flux capacitor, no one is going to be looking at the back of your engine bay and say "dude! that header looks fugly!"

this is one of those function over form things. especially if you're trying to squeeze the most hp out of your whip without going to extremes like turbo swapping or tvs.

 

if i leave the stock one on how much will i loose when i go to get my tune done

 

you won't lose anything. But you could be allowing your engine to push out exhaust a lot quicker. Remember, the more an engine is able to remove exhaust gases, the cleaner and combustible the fuel mixture will be.

 

so more or less through somethign on lol

 

I've seen stock mani's flow 270-280hp, on e85 though

 

we dont got e85 here where im at not that i think anyway

 

Yeah I wish we had e85 around here to. The highest we have here is 93 and thats at the shell or petro can I can't remember. Anyway, yeah pacsetter aint bad man. My friend had one on his mazda mx3 and like others have said that ****** pushed sooo much air man it was just beastly sounding on the mx3. Just go to a good exhaust shop and get the ball joint cut off and new flang welded in. I got my custom exhaust and header put on by mighty auto in bedford they do really good work out there just ask for todd thats who did my work for me.

 

i get all my exhust **** doen at might on kempt road theres a guy there that does the exhust work his name is adam hes been doing it for 14 years and man does he do good work he makes stuff from scrtach he made my exhuast and its moint

 

sweet yeah I like those guys alot better then crappy discount or crappy canadian tire lol

 

haha ya i would never ever let crappy tire touch my car ever

 

in the pacesetter header is there a spot for the o2 sensor??????////

 

yeah comes with everything you need to install it haha

 

o ok i just couldnt tell from form the pic if it had to o2 bung,,,,,how hard is it to vut the donut off and weld the flane onto it?

 

????

 

This thread here gives a good explanation of how to install and weld the pacesetter header.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-2l...cation-237667/