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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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there have been people pushing over 300-400 to the tire on the stock motor.

either with the bottle and a blower, or turbo.
gm rates the bottom end to "300hp" toyota rated the 2jz-gte to 400 when it first came out, now look at it

^^^ i know they have made very impressive numbers before.. but i alwaysthought they were sleeved and everything.. what are they laying down with a stock bottom end?
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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i wonder if there is a way to modify the fuel rail to have the number one injector on the number 4 cyl
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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i think they were saying the best solution would be to rig up a return line and adjustable fuel pressure regulator
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
^^^ i know they have made very impressive numbers before.. but i alwaysthought they were sleeved and everything.. what are they laying down with a stock bottom end?
there have been numerous supra's putting down over 1000 to the tire on stock never cracked open long blocks. {aside from cams}

not sleeved, just overbuilt from the factory. hell the older v8 tundra's can take over 1200 hp before they need forged internals
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
people are modding without the proper monitoring.

"i have an a/f gauge, what more do i need?!!"
whats the cylinder temps?
"i have no idea"

ah ha!
42.5's can support a 2.8 IF {notice the caps kids, pay attention} you take the proper steps to ensure that you are not going stupid with it. cooling mods, water injection, a GOOD tune on it. im sure i will get flamed for it, thats fine. i, like other people with hp tuners, have this great ability to drop boost off via bypass valve. which is what i will be doing. the added torque, but keeping the same boost levels as the stage 2 pulley.

pure and simple, people are not monitoring egt's. you may not get any knock, but you have no idea what the temps are inside of the cylinders. hence broken, or melted ringlands
+1.. its always in the tune... biggest thing people should focus on is always that one thing least looked at...
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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+1.. its always in the tune... biggest thing people should focus on is always that one thing least looked at...
yepo!
hence why i can get away with 25 degrees of timing, 15 lbs, and zero knock. how you might ask? i spent 2 months tinkering and finally got it.

also something else, i do know that majority of this crowd is younger then 25. when you constantly beat the **** out of a car, it WILL break. no matter what it is. be nice to the car, it will be nice to you
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rickyw
i wonder if there is a way to modify the fuel rail to have the number one injector on the number 4 cyl
Of course you could
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yepo!
hence why i can get away with 25 degrees of timing, 15 lbs, and zero knock. how you might ask? i spent 2 months tinkering and finally got it.

also something else, i do know that majority of this crowd is younger then 25. when you constantly beat the **** out of a car, it WILL break. no matter what it is. be nice to the car, it will be nice to you
amen!

I think kids get addicited to boost, and just keep getting smaller and smaller pulleys until, pop!
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yepo!
hence why i can get away with 25 degrees of timing, 15 lbs, and zero knock. how you might ask? i spent 2 months tinkering and finally got it.

also something else, i do know that majority of this crowd is younger then 25. when you constantly beat the **** out of a car, it WILL break. no matter what it is. be nice to the car, it will be nice to you
Yeah, save those "beating the **** out of it" runs for the cars that are worth it.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
yepo!
hence why i can get away with 25 degrees of timing, 15 lbs, and zero knock. how you might ask? i spent 2 months tinkering and finally got it.

also something else, i do know that majority of this crowd is younger then 25. when you constantly beat the **** out of a car, it WILL break. no matter what it is. be nice to the car, it will be nice to you
yup.. i still laugh at my buds on this... ragging the **** out of there cars... my cars never have probs b/c i baby them and only "free spirit" maybe once or twice a week for a few minutes to get rid of some carbon buildup

need to send me a tune
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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i think the best pulley to run would be the 2.85 the afr are safe on th 42.5 injectors and 60lbs injectors are over kill on our week fuel pump. As long as you tune it good and again dont beaqt the **** out of your car you should be good.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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To many tunes being sent over the internet
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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To many tunes being sent over the internet
I think Intense blew up more cars than Al-Queda did last year.


You have to get your car custom tuned. Even the GM tunes suck. These cars are not created equally at all.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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This is one of the best threads i've read yet. I have just been informed of a ton of things that i would of never looked at. I'm preety new to boost and was gonna start modding the wrong way but thanks to yall my eyes have been opened. So basically these cars need to be cooled cause we get tons of heat from our blower? And we need a good tune.
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I think Intense blew up more cars than Al-Queda did last year.


You have to get your car custom tuned. Even the GM tunes suck. These cars are not created equally at all.
im not sure if you have noticed, but, every stage 2 car i have come across has a completely different tune from gm in it.
i have come across three 07's, and the timing and fuel tables are different.

my car rarely see's more then 3 lbs of boost during the week, im not in a hurry, or being messed with. so there is no point in beating on it. it's like masturbating, all your doing is beating yourself
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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So basically if you keep the motor below 300whp you should be good with the stock internals and a real good tune?
Old Jun 21, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
im not sure if you have noticed, but, every stage 2 car i have come across has a completely different tune from gm in it.
i have come across three 07's, and the timing and fuel tables are different.

my car rarely see's more then 3 lbs of boost during the week, im not in a hurry, or being messed with. so there is no point in beating on it. it's like masturbating, all your doing is beating yourself
Yeah, and Solstice are even wierder. They come ALL different. To be safe with those I always use their stock tune to base the upgraded tune off of.

Originally Posted by Striker01
So basically if you keep the motor below 300whp you should be good with the stock internals and a real good tune?
Good luck getting the motor OVER 300whp anyways. Driver stupidity is the real reason engines blow.

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I think Intense blew up more cars than Al-Queda did last year.


You have to get your car custom tuned. Even the GM tunes suck. These cars are not created equally at all.
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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+1 rep on the creator of this thread, it is really good thread lots of interseting and unknown information uncovered. I currently have the dual pass but am still waiting on my CA heat exchanger, my next investment after that might have to be a high flow fuel pump. Does anyone know any companies that make a fuel pump for our cars?
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Psykostevo
I think Intense blew up more cars than Al-Queda did last year.
LOL

Best line evar

Originally Posted by Area47
it's like masturbating, all your doing is beating yourself
lol weeeeeeee

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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well i'm running a 2.85 on the 42's but i'm very very rarely going WOT....i'll be switching to a 2.9 though just to be alittle safer

btw<----tummy needs to be tuned badly

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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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how to prevent blowing up in a couple easy steps.

1. LOWER THE IAT2 TEMP LIMITS FOR FULL BOOST!!!!
2. Flash tune to car.
3. If boost drops off at WOT then LET OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!


Old Jun 24, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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you kill your boost at 145 degrees?

mmmm ok.
Old Jun 24, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Kenny> Good advice. I personally wouldn't limit boost there. In Phoenix, there are a lot of stock cars that run over 140 IAT just cruising. I would set limits at ~170*. But everyone will have a different opinion about this.

Also, most members need to learn to identify knock, because I have ridden with a few people who blew their motors, and it turns out that a couple of them are clueless about what knock is, and most likely why they blew their motors. (I call this the driver stupidity error)



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