Widebank sensor install
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Wideband sensor install
I searched and found no Wideband install how to. I have an AEM coming, I was under the impression you can take out the stock sensor and put the new one in its place then connect the old connector to the new one, however I see alot of posts stating you need to have a new O2 bung welded in, this isn't necessary is it? I can use the stock bung.
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You cannot use the stock 02 sensor bung if you have stock DP or a catted one. You will have to get a bung welded in before the cat.It is pretty involved. It should come with instructions. I just installed the Innovate one, it wasn't too bad once I started installing it.
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You cannot get rid of the stock primary 02 sensor, without it plugged in you can start the car one time and then it will not start, I tried using a wideband to give me wideband signal and send the narrowband signal back to the pcm and this did not work at all
you just need the downpipe tapped for the wideband and retain all the stock sensors
Take your car to a muffler shop and tell them to weld the bung into your exhaust 18" from the head. Screw it in, power it, and go............its that easy
you just need the downpipe tapped for the wideband and retain all the stock sensors
Take your car to a muffler shop and tell them to weld the bung into your exhaust 18" from the head. Screw it in, power it, and go............its that easy
Wow theres a lot of off information here. It's really easy to do compare to a lot of other mods I have. I used the stock O2 bung after the cat for about half a year before going catless. It doesn't really put it off that much at all. Maybe .1aft if that.
The AEM unit comes with a bung. If you want to do it the right way take the downpipe to a shop and have them weld it in. The instructions will come with the proper position, Which is like 2oclock.
Whoever said the car won't start without the the second O2 sensor? what??? I haven't had that sensor in my car in over 2 years, and never once did I have an issue with it. And I never did any of that bullshit of sending back a signal to the stock O2 sensor wires.
After putting the sensor in the downpipe, run the wires from the gauge to the sensor, then theres another batch of wires for power and ground.
Thats about it. Pretty easy compared to a lot of things I've done.
The AEM unit comes with a bung. If you want to do it the right way take the downpipe to a shop and have them weld it in. The instructions will come with the proper position, Which is like 2oclock.
Whoever said the car won't start without the the second O2 sensor? what??? I haven't had that sensor in my car in over 2 years, and never once did I have an issue with it. And I never did any of that bullshit of sending back a signal to the stock O2 sensor wires.
After putting the sensor in the downpipe, run the wires from the gauge to the sensor, then theres another batch of wires for power and ground.
Thats about it. Pretty easy compared to a lot of things I've done.
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Wow theres a lot of off information here. It's really easy to do compare to a lot of other mods I have. I used the stock O2 bung after the cat for about half a year before going catless. It doesn't really put it off that much at all. Maybe .1aft if that.
The AEM unit comes with a bung. If you want to do it the right way take the downpipe to a shop and have them weld it in. The instructions will come with the proper position, Which is like 2oclock.
Whoever said the car won't start without the the second O2 sensor? what??? I haven't had that sensor in my car in over 2 years, and never once did I have an issue with it. And I never did any of that bullshit of sending back a signal to the stock O2 sensor wires.
After putting the sensor in the downpipe, run the wires from the gauge to the sensor, then theres another batch of wires for power and ground.
Thats about it. Pretty easy compared to a lot of things I've done.
The AEM unit comes with a bung. If you want to do it the right way take the downpipe to a shop and have them weld it in. The instructions will come with the proper position, Which is like 2oclock.
Whoever said the car won't start without the the second O2 sensor? what??? I haven't had that sensor in my car in over 2 years, and never once did I have an issue with it. And I never did any of that bullshit of sending back a signal to the stock O2 sensor wires.
After putting the sensor in the downpipe, run the wires from the gauge to the sensor, then theres another batch of wires for power and ground.
Thats about it. Pretty easy compared to a lot of things I've done.
I think the person was referring to the o2 in the header.
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Wow theres a lot of off information here. It's really easy to do compare to a lot of other mods I have. I used the stock O2 bung after the cat for about half a year before going catless. It doesn't really put it off that much at all. Maybe .1aft if that.
The AEM unit comes with a bung. If you want to do it the right way take the downpipe to a shop and have them weld it in. The instructions will come with the proper position, Which is like 2oclock.
Whoever said the car won't start without the the second O2 sensor? what??? I haven't had that sensor in my car in over 2 years, and never once did I have an issue with it. And I never did any of that bullshit of sending back a signal to the stock O2 sensor wires.
After putting the sensor in the downpipe, run the wires from the gauge to the sensor, then theres another batch of wires for power and ground.
Thats about it. Pretty easy compared to a lot of things I've done.
The AEM unit comes with a bung. If you want to do it the right way take the downpipe to a shop and have them weld it in. The instructions will come with the proper position, Which is like 2oclock.
Whoever said the car won't start without the the second O2 sensor? what??? I haven't had that sensor in my car in over 2 years, and never once did I have an issue with it. And I never did any of that bullshit of sending back a signal to the stock O2 sensor wires.
After putting the sensor in the downpipe, run the wires from the gauge to the sensor, then theres another batch of wires for power and ground.
Thats about it. Pretty easy compared to a lot of things I've done.
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explains why you where too stupid to figure out that rodimus was talking about the primary o2 sensor even though he said he was talking about the primary o2 sensor in his statement.
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Either way, I did the most to help the original posters questions, I'm not gonna carry on about this anymore. I misread the comment, big deal.
Blownredss, if you have any other questions feel free to ask me. I can help you with pretty much anything you have questions about, and I have lots of people to back up my knowledge.
If you have any other questions about the wideband install, or want me to go into more depth, let me know. Although I can recommend getting the bung welded in by a shop, I would do the rest myself if I were you. You learn a lot more that way, and it's not worth paying outrages prices to have someone else do it.
When I started on my car, there were lots of things I didn't know, and I learned by researching and doing. Sure I made some mistakes along the way, but it's all part of the learning process. Best thing you can do for yourself is learn from others mistakes. When I blew my engine, toasted 2 pistons, and cracked the block (Putting out A LOT more then just 250hp) I learned a big lesson as well. For the people who are smart and want to learn, I'm all for teaching. A lot of the doctors and nurses I work with say I'm a great teacher for the new people, and I'm all for showing people the right and wrong way.
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NGalaxyTimmyo,
Isn't it sad that a thread that starts off in a question turns in to one member bashing another? I'm sorry that is what you had to encounter on here. But see everyone who is on SS.net seems to have had a part in the OEM design of the car which makes them know everything and you know nothing.
Rodimus_Prime,
Nice job dude, You are the reasons i have less than 20 post on this forum board. I will give you props and say nice cover on the mess up to make yourself not look like an idiot. This man was asking a bout a wideband install, never once did he state anything about the primary 02 sensor in the manifold. Why you felt the need to add your .02 is because your a tool. This gentleman was under the assumption that he could even use the stock wiring harness for the Bosch sensor....So why in gods green earth would you bring up ANOTHER sensor that is completely irrelevant to this question or what this man is trying to do? **** he probably didn't even know there was one in the manifold for crying out loud. Sometimes you just need to know when you to shut your mouth...but that will come with age and maturity...hopefully.
The sensor he was talking about every one on here understood but you. The second 02 sensor, which is the general location of the wideband(if there's no cat). The stock bung WILL work, The Bosch sensor will screw in to it with no problems. The threads are the same. The AEM box DOES come with a 02 bung IF you want to leave that second sensor in and add another bung for the Bosch.
BlownredSS, The install is very simple please don't let a few dumb asses on here make this WAY more difficult then it is. If you have any questions you can ask Timmy or Myself. I would be more than happy to help you get this done with the least amount of bullshit.
Isn't it sad that a thread that starts off in a question turns in to one member bashing another? I'm sorry that is what you had to encounter on here. But see everyone who is on SS.net seems to have had a part in the OEM design of the car which makes them know everything and you know nothing.
Rodimus_Prime,
Nice job dude, You are the reasons i have less than 20 post on this forum board. I will give you props and say nice cover on the mess up to make yourself not look like an idiot. This man was asking a bout a wideband install, never once did he state anything about the primary 02 sensor in the manifold. Why you felt the need to add your .02 is because your a tool. This gentleman was under the assumption that he could even use the stock wiring harness for the Bosch sensor....So why in gods green earth would you bring up ANOTHER sensor that is completely irrelevant to this question or what this man is trying to do? **** he probably didn't even know there was one in the manifold for crying out loud. Sometimes you just need to know when you to shut your mouth...but that will come with age and maturity...hopefully.
The sensor he was talking about every one on here understood but you. The second 02 sensor, which is the general location of the wideband(if there's no cat). The stock bung WILL work, The Bosch sensor will screw in to it with no problems. The threads are the same. The AEM box DOES come with a 02 bung IF you want to leave that second sensor in and add another bung for the Bosch.
BlownredSS, The install is very simple please don't let a few dumb asses on here make this WAY more difficult then it is. If you have any questions you can ask Timmy or Myself. I would be more than happy to help you get this done with the least amount of bullshit.
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Wow this is why i hate css.net. Because of douchebags like Rodimus Prime. NGalaxyTimmyo is one of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to the LSJ and his given more back to the ecotec community than most on here will ever know.
This is why i laugh at every Cobalt i see with a Cobaltss.net sticker on there car. Pretty much instantly shows me that this person is a total tool and jumps on the css.net bandwagon of whoever has more post and is more popular, most always be right.
There is a reason this forum is the laughing stock of the tuner world, people like rodimus prime and the hackle of drones that follow him.
And no where in the OP thread does it say anything about using the 02 sensor in the header...
This is why i laugh at every Cobalt i see with a Cobaltss.net sticker on there car. Pretty much instantly shows me that this person is a total tool and jumps on the css.net bandwagon of whoever has more post and is more popular, most always be right.
There is a reason this forum is the laughing stock of the tuner world, people like rodimus prime and the hackle of drones that follow him.
And no where in the OP thread does it say anything about using the 02 sensor in the header...
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Wow this is why i hate css.net. Because of douchebags like Rodimus Prime. NGalaxyTimmyo is one of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to the LSJ and his given more back to the ecotec community than most on here will ever know.
This is why i laugh at every Cobalt i see with a Cobaltss.net sticker on there car. Pretty much instantly shows me that this person is a total tool and jumps on the css.net bandwagon of whoever has more post and is more popular, most always be right.
There is a reason this forum is the laughing stock of the tuner world, people like rodimus prime and the hackle of drones that follow him.
And no where in the OP thread does it say anything about using the 02 sensor in the header...
This is why i laugh at every Cobalt i see with a Cobaltss.net sticker on there car. Pretty much instantly shows me that this person is a total tool and jumps on the css.net bandwagon of whoever has more post and is more popular, most always be right.
There is a reason this forum is the laughing stock of the tuner world, people like rodimus prime and the hackle of drones that follow him.
And no where in the OP thread does it say anything about using the 02 sensor in the header...
