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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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WOT shifts

Has anybody done many WOT shifts? I am planning on going to bowling green KY this coming weekend and want to do my best at the track since its 6 hours away from me. If I was going to do a WOT shift what would be the safest point in the rpm band to do it with stage 2? 6800?
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by L.P.
Has anybody done many WOT shifts? I am planning on going to bowling green KY this coming weekend and want to do my best at the track since its 6 hours away from me. If I was going to do a WOT shift what would be the safest point in the rpm band to do it with stage 2? 6800?
providing that you don't have the stock clutch, 6500-6800.... good luck at beach bend, it has been sticky down there this year I have been told.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NVMYCOBALTSS
providing that you don't have the stock clutch, 6500-6800.... good luck at beach bend, it has been sticky down there this year I have been told.
**** man, i shifted with my stock clutch at 6500....

on that topic, everyone stay tuned for my clutch replacement how to.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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haha. feel like a noob but what is a WOT shift?
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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It was somebody elses on here and I just borrowed it okay'd by the guy though. So people have been saying beech bend has been good this year? I am hoping for 13's for sure...I usually go to Bristol TN to the drag strip there and it sucks goats for monkeys because of the elevation and no track prep.

Originally Posted by BigTizzle903
haha. feel like a noob but what is a WOT shift?
Wide Open Throttle. It means shifting wihtout lifting off the gas. So well I have the stock clutch how much problems am I going to have?

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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by L.P.
It was somebody elses on here and I just borrowed it okay'd by the guy though. So people have been saying beech bend has been good this year? I am hoping for 13's for sure...I usually go to Bristol TN to the drag strip there and it sucks goats for monkeys because of the elevation and no track prep.



Wide Open Throttle. It means shifting wihtout lifting off the gas. So well I have the stock clutch how much problems am I going to have?

Actually it means Wide Open Throttle aka Gas to the floor. Shifting without lifting the gas is often called "no shift lift" or "power shift" depending on who you talk to. Some people refer to power shifting as not using the clutch to shift when they syncros are lined up. But I mean it as not lifting off the gas when you shift.

Powershifting is hard on the componets, and you should actually granny shift as powershifting will only save you a few .x's off your time and without the proper mods would do more harm then good.
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Old Nov 12, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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6500 in first
6800 in second and third

our tach is a little laggy, and since first is so quick, i find that it i go much past 6500 on the tach i bounce the limiter.
also, we stop making power after 6700rpm
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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well the power goin to the wheels shuts down on my car at 6000, and 6500 and 6800 is that when the gears are lined up perfect and u dnt even have to use the clutch to shift?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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im waiting for the "i blew my tranny up" posts.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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WOT shifting involves the clutch.

shifting without the clutch on this tranny is........yeah....

just dont do it.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by an0malous
WOT shifting involves the clutch.

shifting without the clutch on this tranny is........yeah....

just dont do it.
i have blown many trannies up because of said shifting method. {tapping the clutch and hoping i find the gear}
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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I am not nearly as agressive as that.
wot shifting is merely shifting quickly without getting off the gas.

you can do it quickly without tapping the clutch and risking missing the gear.
im quick on the clutch and the gear, but its longer than just "tapping"
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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I learned how to powershift way back when with my 5L Mustangs (in the 80's and 90's).

LOL

Dong that in my 'Stangs, the Borg Warner T-5 would eventually wear out the 2nd gear synchro first - and then the 3rd gear synchro right after that. But at that time, I was racing at the drag strip almost every week.

The stock clutch was pretty strong in the 'Stang, but I had to go to beefed up versions of the T-5 after a while. After I learned how to do it though, it was the only way I shifted when racing. I could literally do it in my sleep. No kidding ...

But seeing how I wasn't sure yet as to the durability of the SS/SC's tranny and clutch, I decided not to do it on the 'Balt (I powershifted my SRT-4 and Focus ST with no problems)

And believe it or not, I actually had to unlearn that technique. It was actually difficult for me not to powershift when driving aggressively, but I didn't.

And all things considered now regarding our cluthces, it's a dang good thing I didn't!
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
I learned how to powershift way back when with my 5L Mustangs (in the 80's and 90's).

LOL

Dong that in my 'Stangs, the Borg Warner T-5 would eventually wear out the 2nd gear synchro first - and then the 3rd gear synchro right after that. But at that time, I was racing at the drag strip almost every week.

The stock clutch was pretty strong in the 'Stang, but I had to go to beefed up versions of the T-5 after a while. After I learned how to do it though, it was the only way I shifted when racing. I could literally do it in my sleep. No kidding ...

But seeing how I wasn't sure yet as to the durability of the SS/SC's tranny and clutch, I decided not to do it on the 'Balt (I powershifted my SRT-4 and Focus ST with no problems)

And believe it or not, I actually had to unlearn that technique. It was actually difficult for me not to powershift when driving aggressively, but I didn't.

And all things considered now regarding our cluthces, it's a dang good thing I didn't!
after i dropped 2500 bucks in various transmissions. i stopped doing it. much like burnouts for no reason
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:19 AM
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I wot shift the **** outta mine. If I'm getting on it it's getting wot shifted, I am to the point where when I try not to wot shift I usually miss a gear. In conclusion, bang gears with the gas to the floor.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
after i dropped 2500 bucks in various transmissions. i stopped doing it. much like burnouts for no reason
If it helps gain times in the 1/4th its not done for no reason. I figure strating to press the clutch in around 6800 and just push the clutch in about 1/2 way and then shift gears it should be fine. I know a lot of SRT-4s do it because whenever you hear the loud pop pop they make inbetween shifts you know they have done a WOT shift. It seems like WOT shifting at least with the certs help gain some mph and lower some et's.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by L.P.
If it helps gain times in the 1/4th its not done for no reason.
^Exactly.

It most certainly is not done for nothing, but one also has to be prepared for the consequences and adjust for them.

Here are some good rules to follow that I've learned over the years:
  • A short throw shifter is an absolute must (for the longer 2/3 throw)
  • If you can, practice on an older car whose tranny is about to go anyways
  • Know a good place where you can get discounted, beefed up trannys
  • Buy the tools and learn how to remove/reinstall a tranny (it will save you $$ in the long run)
  • Address any other weaknesses that are known to exist in your car (differential, axles, etc.)

So yeah, powershifting is definitely worth it if you're racing ....

But be prepared ahead of time so you don't get caught with a broken "X" at the track.

LOL
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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keep doing burnouts on street tires. i'll keep laughing as i pull away.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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My suggestion is if you arent a really good driver, and confident in your ability, then dont do it! you can cause damage quite easily if you do it wrong and not only that,But you would probably cut faster times driving within your ability! Not to mention consistency!
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
keep doing burnouts on street tires. i'll keep laughing as i pull away.

Never said anything about doing burnouts on street tires I knwo that is useless unless you have drag radials. I was talking about WOT shifts at the track.
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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ive done it before, but i seen some trannies after doing it and im scared of screwing things up, so i no longer do it.
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