I'm wanting to get these wanting to know if its a good setup its catless also thanks guys

 

i ran it and liked it...only part that i didn't was the two bolt flange where it leaked a bit

 

A lot of people have had a problem with the flex pipes. Also not only that but when I switched from the mid length header/dp combo to pacesetter's setup, I gained hp and torque

 

ya i got the midlength header and the downpipe and agreed the 2 bolt flange is a flaw, i had to heat it up and hammer it flat and still put some exhaust gasket maker in there to fully seal it. other then that its been a great setup on my 2.4

 

What Dp do you use with the pace setter or does it come with it

 

Yeah, im gonna put some gasket maker **** on there two, its annoying me.

OP, get a high flow cat, i would if i could do it all over.

FYI, the midlength is a bitch to put on...

 

well you guys think 220 shipped is a bad deal

 

Seems high, arent they discontinued? I think this is whats sitting in my trunk lol

 

The midlength? No, they still make them AFAIK...

 

o ok, guess I over looked it on there site

 

ya the stuff i put on there is the exhaust gasket sealer from pyrex. stuff is nice and thick and is driveable after 15 minutes. and its hard as a rock and catalytic converter/o2 sensor safe.

and couldn't agree more with it being a bitch to put on. you guys have an issue with the nuts being too close to the piping?

 

YES! was very annoying! Had to hand wrench 2 in...

 

Where is this header on ZZP's site? All I can find is the long tube headers.

 

ZZP header/dp combo

Cobalt & Ion ---> ZZ Performance

 

[QUOTE=SuckMyBalts;5509016]A lot of people have had a problem with the flex pipes.

i said that in a previous post a few months back and the great gods came down on me and said i was full of it and just trying to dig up stuff to complain about lol.

 

I would go with badmab shorty header, they actually have a sale on right now.

 

^ this. I just bought my bad-mab shorty and its going on this coming wednesday if it doesnt snow

 

Love my Bad-Mab as well. Has my vote.

 

cant beat it! 189, free shipping, lifetime warranty, and if your unhappy with it for ANY reason, he will buy it back in full no questions asked.....

 

ah there it is, thanks!

 

"i said that in a previous post a few months back and the great gods came down on me and said i was full of it and just trying to dig up stuff to complain about lol. "



Lies, it's a well known fact that a person who used to work there, cough wont say his name but I know it, cough, was so F'ing dumb that he CRIMPED the flex pipes on instead of welding them.

 

say the name

 

I can't remember it in all honesty, I really want to say fred. All I know is he worked in the exhaust department for zzp and they fired him after he was crimping all the flex pipes instead of welding them. Very very well known issue roughly 2-3 years ago. But that is all fixed nowadays.

Throughout the years though, zzp has had a lot of issues in my opinion in the exhaust department. Crimping the flex pipes, flex pipes breaking in the center / cracking, the whisper resonator failures, the 2 bolt flange failures, all sorts of things.

 

X2 Thats why when I was searching for a quality header/downpipe combo I took the time to reasearch and most people if not all had said the zzp combo was not worth the money due to the problems it had. Thats why I went with clearimage for my combo. I also considered vibrant, and badmab.

 

its not a bitch to install...i put mine on in like 20 min.... i have the longtube now and love the sound! haven't been able to feel the performance part yet cuz i still need my tune...