I have the zzp motor mount and the control arm bushings, which we just installed a few hours ago. I STILL get wheel hop, keep that in mind, however it is so miniscule that you will hardly notice it (honestly)...and it only happens for a split second. You are going to need a tranny mount coupled with the bushings to completely eliminate wheel hop...for now.

 

I suppose they could say no. But then again, that would be bad for their rep on this site now wouldnt it...

I'm going to uninstall first thing in the morn after I contact ZZP about their "product"

 

I'm with ya there. Just testing the waters stock until you see what works too?

 

Let me know what they say... I might have to send mine back as well.

 

I have the zzp motormount, I think it's worth it. It cuts down on wheel, period. It lets you get off the line quicker, period. I won't deny I still get wheel hop as well, but I have to push the car harder to get that wheel hop.

If it was a solid mount it would have a lot more vibration, I think it's a happy medium and I think thats what it's aim is. Polyurathane comes in many different forms and I am not sure what you mean true poly mount.

If you want stiffer you can also make your own mounts out of stock mounts and just buy the polyurathane to fill them with.


Do you have the LSD? Just wondering if that makes a differences in the results you are seeing.

I don't have the LSD.

 

That's a problem with this community. One persons says something negative about a product and people start freaking out. There are many people who have bought the mount and are happy with it, I am one of them. It didn't elimante all of my wheel hop but it did reduce it and firmed up my shifts. It did just what the ZZP site said it would do.

I think BullDog71ss was expecting this mount to do something that it is never going to do. The mount does exaclty what it says it will do. Did you really think that a $150 mount was going to cure all of your wheel hop problems? If you are unhappy with it take it off and contact ZZP. After experiancing first hand their customer service I'm almost positve that they will offer you a refund.

 

what he said, it wont eliminate wheel hop,there may be a small difference but maybe you dont notice it, keep it on, get the poly control arm bushings from jbp and yer good.

 

Did I ever say I thought it was going to eliminate all of my wheel hop? No, I did not.
I was however hoping to notice somewhat of a difference in shifting firmness and at least somewhat of a reduction in wheelhop. In my case, it did niether of the two on any noticable level. This is why I believe the product isn't worth the money I spent on it. If it had actually done something to enhance my car in any way then I wouldn't complain too much because it is afterall a cheap mod. But, since it does nothing to enhance the car it has now turned into an expensive and useless, nothing. Because that's what it has done for me, nothing.

 

**** man, that really does suck, take it back if you realy cant notice the smallest of differences and get the poly bushings, i grab mine on fri, talked to the guy at jbp, they reduce wheel hop by 75 percent i think he said.

 

I was happy with the amount it cut down on my wheel hop. I think it also helped with breaking the tires loose at the top of the RPM band. My tires no longer break free and hop at the top of first. I do get some wheelhop on rough roads but I do not notice anymore vibrations than stock. I am happy with the mount and the job it has done.

 

I hate poly--for mounts anyhow. Increased harshness and vibration, at least on my Camaro.

 

yup, they are noisy but they are worth it.

 

tofu what is your 60 foot time and how much will the control bushing cut your total 1/4 mile down iyo?

 

There was a large difference in stiffness in my ZZp motor mount compared to my stock one, could yours be defective? On the wheel hop issue i havn't really had much since i swapped my tranny mount for a RSM one and the motor mount just added to the smoothness of shifting. I'm going to get the control arm bushings and see where i am then.

 

Ok so how about this. People that have done mods to reduce wheel hop should list what they have done. The difficulty of the install and the cost and site where you bought the mods. Rate from 1 - 10 how much they reduced your wheel hop. I think this would clear up much confusion. Tofu you seem to be having the best luck with reducing wheel hop so you should list all of this for us......

 

Guess i'll start.

Here they are in decreasing order of reducing wheel hop:

ZZP tranny mount > ZZP engine mount > weapon-r damper

Shift firmness increase:

Tranny mount >> Engine mount > weapon-r damper

Vibrations caused:

Tranny mount>>>>>weapon-r damper >= engine mount

I still get wheel hop at the very end of first but that might be due to the cold and the fact that my tires were getting pretty bald up front. Haven't had the opportunity to get a good run after i rotatated the tires but maybe later tonight.

I haven't really fully tested the damper so it may not be as bad as it appears here. Once i get a nice weekend i hope to play around with how firm i make the damper and everything. The fitment of the damper was fine for me and there was no noticable rubbing or extra vibes when turning.

Next up for me is new tires....

 

Well I don't have a torque brace or a polyurethane transmission mount.

But based simply off having the zzp motor mount and control arm bushings, I would say the bushings are the best way to reduce wheel hop hands down. Not only that, but I do not notice ANY difference in vibrations or driveability...no noticle increase in road noise, road feel, anything.

I got on it a few times today from some stop signs on the way to work and I didn't get a single bit of wheel hop.

Now, schwv, another poster on here has the zzp motor mount, transmission mount and the bushings and doesn't, no, CANNOT get wheel hop, whatsoever. So in lamens terms, if you get all three, you won't have anymore wheel hop.

I agree with Zinner that the zzp motor mount did great for me, it cut down on *some* wheel hop and also made shifting feel firmer.

just my .02 cents.

 

hey tofu have you ever tried to shift early in 1st right before you wheel hop?

you hsoudl be high enough in the power band to still pull when i got o track tomarrow im gonna have to try this

 

I'll have to try it!

 

I've got the ZZ engine and front trans mount and cannot get the car to wheel hop anymore. Tofu where and how much $$ were the bushings?

 

http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0925

 

I have the ZZP motor mount and love it. It removed about 10% of my wheel hop and I have no vibs at all. Shifting is fermer and more direct to. Ill be geting there trans mount and some control arm bushings soon.
I have a set of BFG G-force KDW2s size 235-40-18 going on some lighter then stock (By 4lb each) Rims that will be going on the car later today. I will be making a new post on them and will let every one know if they help the wheel hop or not.

Later

 

Aaron, I apologize the mount you received isn't performing as you expected it to. Brook just came into my office after speaking with you. From you describing it as being the same as the stock mount, it makes me wonder if you received a stock mount. I would appreciate if you could send it back for our inspection. While unlikely, it is possible (although unlikely) that one of our new people mixed up an order. Keep in mind though, that the engine mount doens't prevent wheel hop nearly as much as the transmission mount.

The pricing of the mount is a little high if you ask me but the problem is that we have to purchase mounts from GM directly before we modify them. Just the cost of the mount is 1/2 of our cost. Added labor and materials make up the remainer of the cost. Overall the feedback we've received on the mounts has been phenomenal but there is always room for improvement. We appreciate all feedback and look forward to serving you guys with future products.

 

I contacted Zoomer about this and he e-mailed me back right away telling me that I could return the product if it wasn't what I expected. I have since decided to keep the mount. Just letting everyone know that they have very good customer service.

 

what bang are you talking about...? i have never heard my car "bang" when shifting