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2.4 mani swap problem plz help

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Old 01-25-2012, 08:23 AM
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ok so now i really fucked..i broke the brake booster nipple off my stock..yay go noobie..so i am having to run with this 08+ 2.4 mani..i can see i do need the adapter plate for the TB for this to work..would a lsj adapter plate work?
Old 01-25-2012, 09:00 AM
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you do know you have to tune with the 2.4 mani right? its not a plug and play.... or i guess. bolt on and play.
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Iv always been told the only time you need to tune if you put the 2.4 TB even on ced it says no tune required...thx for the info though
Old 01-25-2012, 09:18 AM
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I'm sorry on zzp it says it no tuning required
Old 01-25-2012, 09:55 AM
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But let me ask what's different with the older 2.4 mani and the 08+newer one and why you would need a tune..without the 2.4 tb?
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Originally Posted by AzraelRaezier
you do know you have to tune with the 2.4 mani right? its not a plug and play.... or i guess. bolt on and play.
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Old 01-25-2012, 12:32 PM
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Awesome...can any one help me with the adapter plate...would a lsj adapter work for me...I just need some help cuz my car is sitting and I need to drive..;( thx guys I would rather pay for a adapter plate than a new mani..thx
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did u look on Crate engine depot website?
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Originally Posted by robert3108
Awesome...can any one help me with the adapter plate...would a lsj adapter work for me...I just need some help cuz my car is sitting and I need to drive..;( thx guys I would rather pay for a adapter plate than a new mani..thx
Talk to NWAE Cobalt, he's a member on here. Sold his balt but he has a template we made for that adapter plate. My 2.2 had the 2.4 manifold on it and our adapter. I'll mention it to him today, he should have at least one sitting around he could ship off to you. Send him a PM.
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Ok awesome thanks man...its just the opening to the TB on the mani side seems to be little wider..I got a pic on my phone but I can't post it...but I did look at ced and didn't find just the plate...but sent them a email and haven't heard from them
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Originally Posted by robert3108
Ok awesome thanks man...its just the opening to the TB on the mani side seems to be little wider..I got a pic on my phone but I can't post it...but I did look at ced and didn't find just the plate...but sent them a email and haven't heard from them
Yeah I know what you mean, that's why we made one for mine, same issue.

Just talked to him, he still has them and can make you one. Probably won't cost much more than shipping. Makes them out of Lexan which works great in this application. Just don't go all gorilla on the TB bolts.
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Haha ok I have to wait till I get home
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Originally Posted by jbenso4
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okay well ive just always been told you need to tune for the 2.4 on a 2.2. my apologies.
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Originally Posted by AzraelRaezier
okay well ive just always been told you need to tune for the 2.4 on a 2.2. my apologies.
only if you run the 2.4 tb, though you will see much better gains out of tuning with the 2.4 mani on
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Originally Posted by AzraelRaezier
okay well ive just always been told you need to tune for the 2.4 on a 2.2. my apologies.
It's all good man..thx for the advice...as much as I want to do the tune..I have the wifey that says others wise
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Hey yelloeye can you get contact info for nwae cobalt? That would be awesome thx man
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You do not HAVE to have the tune to run the 2.4 intake mani...just the TB. In fact you wont be able to tune till you ge the fitment right.

Im the guy yelloeye was talking about, I actually have a set (gasket and adapter) made if your interested. Shoot me a PM and we can work it out and I can ship to today if you need one.
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Also can anyone confirm on the New 2.4 mani that pcv seal is built in? I believe drumrush said something bout it..just need to confirm..thx
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everything is all plug and play once you get the adapter from me. from everythign youve mentioned so far as long as you have all the gaskets set up on it and all the holes filled with a hose or wire that goes in it youll be good to go!
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Originally Posted by robert3108
It's all good man..thx for the advice...as much as I want to do the tune..I have the wifey that says others wise
Just tell her it'll get a lot better gas mileage after the tune. I was getting 38-40 on the freeway.
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haha ya yelloeye i tell her all the time its going to make my car run better and get better gas...in which it does if im not lead footing it all the time...iv gotten upward to 31mpg (hwy miles) and the most on a full tank was 427miles estimated..lol but i started doing a differ way on filling up gas..i found a thread on here about it and my wifes 08 equinox got about 340ish miles to a full tank..took her TB off cleaned it and air filter and filled her car up real slow haha...took forever on a 20 gal tank..but last night on her trip A i got it at 399.6 =) so i improved like 50+ miles in doing so. and filled it back up and her estimated full tank read about 443 which usually reads about 340-350 range..
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how would filling the gas tank slowly improve your mileage?

please explain makes me interested.
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Originally Posted by AzraelRaezier
how would filling the gas tank slowly improve your mileage?

please explain makes me interested.
Originally Posted by robert3108
haha ya yelloeye i tell her all the time its going to make my car run better and get better gas...in which it does if im not lead footing it all the time...iv gotten upward to 31mpg (hwy miles) and the most on a full tank was 427miles estimated..lol but i started doing a differ way on filling up gas..i found a thread on here about it and my wifes 08 equinox got about 340ish miles to a full tank..took her TB off cleaned it and air filter and filled her car up real slow haha...took forever on a 20 gal tank..but last night on her trip A i got it at 399.6 =) so i improved like 50+ miles in doing so. and filled it back up and her estimated full tank read about 443 which usually reads about 340-350 range..
Taking the figures from his post:
EPA Fuel Economy 16city/24hwy 19combined

Full tank = 20gal

1 tank before TB cleaning = 350miles
1 tank after TB cleaning = 400miles(rounding up .4miles)

MPG before cleaning = ~17.5
MPG after cleaning = ~20

If he drove all highway miles he should get 480 a tank according to the EPA, now with him filling slow it is allowing him to fill the neck of the fuel filler all the way up to the top. Possibly adding upto 1-2gallons of fuel, EPA says that should equal 48 miles HWY. That's all the sense I can make of it.
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Oh i thought he ment he literally filled it up slowly at the pump. lol sorry misunderstanding on my part.


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