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Old 04-02-2010, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777
Higher compression pistons, ported head, stage 3 cams, adjustable cam gears, full bolt ons, tune... that should put you damn close to your goal with a sexy lope idle.
Say goodbye to your DD..
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will the zzp 2.2 cat-con downpipe bolt-n to the vibrant header?

https://www.zzperformance.com/cobalt...=540&catid=155

i need to know this quick !
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not to thread jack lets just say he went full boltons and a stage 2 cam then slapped a 75 shot on, what could you see hp wise
Old 04-02-2010, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by StrongIslandBalter
not to thread jack lets just say he went full boltons and a stage 2 cam then slapped a 75 shot on, what could you see hp wise
ummm prolly a blown motor
Old 04-02-2010, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jbenso4
ummm prolly a blown motor
mayyyybe..and i wouldnt

but mid 200's
and yes...stg 3 cams are not happy for dd lol
stg 2 cams are bad enough
Old 04-02-2010, 01:59 PM
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the answer is just about no.
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hey bro... ive got an 08 LT too. u can go full bolt on parts i.e. headers, downpipe, intake, cat back, intake manifold, throttle body from a 2.4L, spark plugs, and a good tune. that would prolly get u 220hp but not 200whp. thats pretty much how ive built my car. its not bad but im gonna supercharge mine evenually...
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I would say port and polish the head, get a full 3in header back exhaust with no cats. Youll need a nice cold air intake and fairly large cams but it should be doable. Im into hondas and its fairly easy to get 220-230 from a 1.6L so I dont see why its so hard for a 2.2.
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I'd like to ask all of the guys that went for the 200whp N/A if they would do it over the same way.

I went as far as i could without getting crazy and I'm kinda mad I went that direction. Waste of time money and pain.
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
I'd like to ask all of the guys that went for the 200whp N/A if they would do it over the same way.

I went as far as i could without getting crazy and I'm kinda mad I went that direction. Waste of time money and pain.
yes...unique, fun, can do over time (unlike boost which you pretty much have to do almost all at once), etc

i may have done a bit more research first so i didnt do somethings more then once, but all in all its been great

Originally Posted by Zero6LS
hey bro... ive got an 08 LT too. u can go full bolt on parts i.e. headers, downpipe, intake, cat back, intake manifold, throttle body from a 2.4L, spark plugs, and a good tune. that would prolly get u 220hp but not 200whp. thats pretty much how ive built my car. its not bad but im gonna supercharge mine evenually...
no way it will get you 220hp, not happening EVER with those mods
you MIGHT see 180-185 crank hp and then compensate for whp from that

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Old 04-02-2010, 08:01 PM
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go n/a originallity is always best! lol (puts flame suit on)
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Originally Posted by xxxxsh4d0wxxxx
Say goodbye to your DD..
I guess you have a reading issue:
Originally Posted by joshc.
I currently run Comp stage 3s in my own car and if you daily drive I dont advise them. In city driving down in the low rpms you can fell the powerband isn't there but right at 4500RPM and the car screams and pulls all the way to redline(mine is set at 7500 comp quotes powerband to 8k).
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no way it will get you 220hp, not happening EVER with those mods
you MIGHT see 180-185 crank hp and then compensate for whp from that
Damn it you beat me too it.
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777
I guess you have a reading issue:
Dude, all I said was stage 3 comp cams would be very iffy on a DD.. Some people with only stage 2 comp cams say DD is a bitch.

What are you trying to prove? ****.
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ok you two, stop arguing
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Dont be bitter....reconsider
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good luck
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i honestly dont see why you cant get 200whp or more, i know a few guys here witht he H22A (JDM H22) making 225-255whp.
the H22 is still a 2.2 and what most of them have done is this
11:1 compression P5P pistons, OEM type S
Head milled 0.030", yielding roughly 11.7-11.8:1
Skunk2 Pro1 cams
Head ported and polished, 5 angle valve job, port work by Dave Lind
Skunk2 modified intake manifold, ported and reworked, S2000 ported throttle body
10 lb chromoly flywheel, unorthodox crank pulley
4-2-1 JDM Feels header, full 2.5" exhaust, no cat
Tuned with CromePro, made 220whp and 158wtq

the ones who changed their cranks made a bit more power
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Something that you can look up for more N/A power is ITB's. Idk if anyone has done them to a cobalt yet so that would be sweet.
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For me N/A is so much fun but there are so many much faster cars in my area that make me want more, and i'm already on a built motor and alot of nitrous not to mention if you do it right later on down the road you could add a supercharger without a problem.
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
I'd like to ask all of the guys that went for the 200whp N/A if they would do it over the same way.

I went as far as i could without getting crazy and I'm kinda mad I went that direction. Waste of time money and pain.
i like my N/A balt cuz its still half way fuel efficient!! i do agree thats its a pain tho
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Originally Posted by dandaman15
Something that you can look up for more N/A power is ITB's. Idk if anyone has done them to a cobalt yet so that would be sweet.
no one has because of the issues with merging the cable actuated itbs with the fly by wire system in place as well as injector setups and such

i have done a lil research but its goign to be abotu 2-3k just for the itb setup...not worth it until everything else is already done



and i love my n/a, fun to drive, get funny looks cause its a 4 banger with a lope :P


just is fun
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Originally Posted by Zero6LS
i like my N/A balt cuz its still half way fuel efficient!! i do agree thats its a pain tho

i did 400km for 20liter. its 5L/100km. its good for a cam stg 2 setup

but when i race it a ohter story.

i m now on 87 octane and it fine
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Originally Posted by huckernage
i did 400km for 20liter. its 5L/100km. its good for a cam stg 2 setup

but when i race it a ohter story.

i m now on 87 octane and it fine
i regularly get 40+ freeway mpg and 30 if im not on it hard elsewhere...
when i really put my foot into it though im looking at like 7mpg... 0_o
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Originally Posted by Take2-08LT
O of course its worth the hassle. I don't know about you guys but when someone tells me I can't I most certainly will. Plus when I get bored with.my mark And I slap a Turbo on it ill be able to go past the 250 limit our engines have.
But it would not be efficient to build a high compression n/a motor, and then decide to drop a turbo on it.
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