Just wondering if there are any 2.2l's on here that have gone SC'd but are still on stock internals.

Once my warranty is close to being up and my loan is paid off, I will most likely be piecing together an S/C build; however I'm not sure if I'll be able to afford all new internals (although it would be ideal).

 

dont be an idiot, buy everything you need and dont half ass the job. you'll only regret it in the end.

 

Woah woah there dude, This is for a future build; I have not yet even started. I was just wondering if anyone has actually gone FI and left the internals stock. I read around, and it seems like the ones who tried ended up doing rebuilds. Just wondering if anyone's actually had success with it.

Honestly, if I can't find enough good deals to keep the build under 2.5-3k (in a year or so), then I'll probably just trade up the car... But I had planned on doing internals, personally.

 

if you're going that route, install your necessary internals first. that way when you finally get to the supercharger, you'll have everything you'll need already installed. otherwise you're just going to end up with a blown motor, you'd be lucky if you didnt.

 

So what you're saying is there's not one single person on here that has gone FI on stock internals?

I just find it hard to beleive....

 

im not saying that at all- but when you bump up your horsepower by what i'd guess would be around 25%, you're putting a lot of stress on the engine. you can either pay 2.5k for all the parts you need now, or pay 1k for a new engine later, plus the 2.5k to do it right all over again.

 

im about to go sc and hunterkiller is sc both autos on stock internals, just dont push 290 and up

 

yea its better to be safe. and if you are supercharging it, im guessing you are going to be using it at the track and so, and all that extra stress will eventually blow something up. so just save that extra money and put in the proper internals.

 

wow.... guys that dont know actual fact need to not talk.


you can put an m62 on a 2.2 with no problem. the first thing to go would be your connecting rods but only going past 250. You could run an m62 all day on a conservative tune and be safe. really safe. These people are making it seem like if you dont do a rebuild you are screwed. its just not true.

You just have to be smart about it and realize what your engines limits are.

 

That's just the thing.... this is my DD and only car, so it would definitely be a conservative tune. I would think pushing 230hp tops.

My ideal build would be the wiseco's and eagle rods, so if i wanted to start tuning past that I wouldn't have any worries, but I'd need a couple of supporting suspension mods before I could put that much down. The money aspect is definitely going to be the biggest challenge.

 

im s/c'd on the stock block rite now about 9lbs it does just fine. just making sure it worked before my motor gets built

 

This thread SUCKS

 

Well aren't you precious!

Trolling much?

 

no...it really does suck. the first like 5 responses are all filled with incorrect information. As im sure you know, a LOT of people will read the OP, just a couple responses, and make their own response based off of the incorrect information they just read.

stay above a 2.8" pulley and you'll be fine on stock internals. I dont believe any of the members who run an M62 on a L61/LE5 have upgraded their internals yet.

 

Unfortunately, I can't control the responses... but it really wasn't even answering my question. I just wanted to see which members had done it, who kept it stock and who didn't.

Thanks to the people that did respond to the original question. I'm already looking at piecing the build together, maybe starting the build this summer or next.... Just have to see how my money looks.

Any other tips?

PS.... are you still on stock internals at 265 hp (from your sig)?

 

most of them are on stock internals

 

yea, im still on stock internals.

 

There is a stock ss/sc engine/trans for 1000 local. with wiring harness and computer, was removed from a ss/sc that had been totaled from the back

 

the process mcphatty is talking about is really one of a middle class man which wants crazy fast, but can't afford it all at once. which is not the same process a middle class man which just wants to get the "ss/sc or ss/tc quickness" goes through.

as pointed out and proven, the l61 is capable. hunters definitely pushin it on the threshold, but on a great dyno tune, if ya keep it around 250hp an l61 will be that same great daily driver, and i figure your not doing this to go beatin the **** out of it everyday, in fact you'll probably find yourself not gettin into it as much as you do non F/I now.

If GM hadn't of done such extensive testing on our motors and given us the ratings for their parts I'd probably go a lil more cautious, but GM did do the most testing they've ever done on our motor and have told us all the ratings of their parts.

 

couple friends of mine are sc'd on stock internals. They are actually selling their sc set up (complete w/zzp he and stu mod). PM me or stenguyen1 if you're interested.

 

PM sent! Thanks for the info!

 

its not a direct swap. not worth it in the least

I wouldnt put me close to the edge at all... stock rods snapped at 284bhp under nitrous. Im only at 265bhp under boost, which is a LOT more gentle on internals. I would be willing to bet you can run about 325bhp on the stock rods and be fine. How long you can do this reliably is the question. El mariachi is running about 260hp to the wheels, which is around 310bhp, and has been doing so for a while now with no issues.

mind you, this 284bhp under nitrous was the way GM decided to rate the stock rods at 250bhp. The pistons are also rated at 250bhp, even though they never tested the breaking point of the stock pistons. Once the rods went, they just swapped them both

 

Thanks for the informative posts hunter. I'm sure I'll be consulting you among many others once this build gets started.

 

sounds good. I get PMs pretty regularly about it..
when you start the build, ill giver you my number so you can get answers to any questions you may have without having to wait for someone to read a post. That can get old if you have something like a yes or no question that doesnt get answered for 5 hours...lol

 

I'm running 11psi, so far no problems, still stock internals, stock clutch, no issues at all...good luck with ur build :