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Apexi S-AFC

Old Aug 20, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Apexi S-AFC

Has anyone tried this option yet on the 2.2? just curious
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHHR
Has anyone tried this option yet on the 2.2? just curious
its not worth it...

you would need a pretty decently built motor to get good gains from it...
i have all the bolt ons and some internals with a shaved head and i only noticed a 7hp gain on the dyno.. you really need to have a highly built motor to use it..
plus its hard to learn
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:35 AM
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what are all these bolt ons you have and how much is your head shaved? No way in hell you are getting 7HP from all bolt ons we have available + a shaved head.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
what are all these bolt ons you have and how much is your head shaved? No way in hell you are getting 7HP from all bolt ons we have available + a shaved head.

his sig says he doesnt not own a cobalt

but with boltons alone you should be getting 7whp
internals too? what are you doing wrong?!?!
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk05Cobalt
its not worth it...

you would need a pretty decently built motor to get good gains from it...
i have all the bolt ons and some internals with a shaved head and i only noticed a 7hp gain on the dyno.. you really need to have a highly built motor to use it..
plus its hard to learn

Umm the whole thing about the AFC is putting that decently built motor to use.... By just putting an intake and exhaust and all the goodies it doesnt put them to full use without messing with your air and fuel curves... whats the point of putting on a cold air when your set on stock air curve????? Maybe you should look into one.. Its not that hard to learn I have had 2 cars with apexi. A neon with the afc and a wrx with avcr.. Nothing like being able to change your curves and boost without having to re tune your computer. THats the whole point of a piggy back system.
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Old Aug 24, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tiny
his sig says he doesnt not own a cobalt

but with boltons alone you should be getting 7whp
internals too? what are you doing wrong?!?!
I noticed that, but the Cobalt or the Neon...hell any car you would think would see more than 7whp from I/H/E plus bumped compression.

I think you should give the S-AFC a go...its not like we have a plethora of options to choose from anyway tuning wise.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
I noticed that, but the Cobalt or the Neon...hell any car you would think would see more than 7whp from I/H/E plus bumped compression.

I think you should give the S-AFC a go...its not like we have a plethora of options to choose from anyway tuning wise.
Should have results in a couple weeks.... Hopefully I make more then 7 hp
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