Obviously that's a lie since you can build **** lol

 

I can't build a damn thing.

I design dirtwork / grading and i design stormwater systems. With only 3 years experience I know about as much as a monkey at the zoo.

 

To the OP: Mobil 1 is good oil, consistent and available at walmart for 27 50 or so for a 5 qt jug, hard to beat.

Other folks like other stuff, but like Maven says, good oil changed according to your oil change lite is a good thing.

sorry this thread got derailed by bs OP

 

so you know how to fling your own poo?

 

i can build anything from lego's

 

Really? You didn't pick up the apostrophe being left out of "whatd". Damn, looks like the iPhone can't do it all, huh? Haha

 

Who doesn't

 

I have two BS degrees how many do you have?

 

I took all of those math courses and others....Trig, College Algrebra, Calc 1-3, Discrete Math, etc. So how is that a step up from high school when I have two degrees from a state college? They had your discipline where I went to school also. I thought it nothing more than a glorified art major, students playing on CAD all day. I guess we all have our opinions

 

Never touched CAD in civil engineering courses ever.

Did you have Thermodynamics, statics, dynamics, and how many years of physics?

P.S. Networking is just plugging in wires

Not trying to have a pissing match, just trying to understand how your management and wire plugging skills pertain to petroleum/chemical engineering.

 

 

I never said I was a chemical engineer. The only reason my education was brought up was because of people in this thread. Does that mean I can't read up on standards and/or learn on my own. I know how to work on a car and I didn't get a automotive degree to that. The whole purpose of this thread was to debate oil. If someone wants to have documented proof that Mobile 1 (or any other) is better than Pennzoil Ultra. I will go out and start using it tomorrow.

P.S.S my minor was Computer Networking. Computer Science is the study and analysis of algorithms. Industrial Technolgy was in all reality an EE course which was the study of AC/DC principals.

If I offended anyone I appoligize (seriously). Though I doubt anyone on here would let someone call them a retard in person.

 

^^apologize*

 

I am still interested in your reasoning of pennzoil ultra being the best other than the same reason the rest of us like Mobile 1 or Valvoline (or any other brand mentioned). I've torn apart little Honda GX160s that have ran on pennzoil (just regular not the ultra) and there was a lot of "gunk" from the oil, and i've torn apart others that ran on valvoline synthetic (yes apples to oranges) and there was almost no "gunk" they both had been ran well over the recommended change cycle, both in gokarts that go beat on evenly by the public, and both oils where very black.

(side note i am a chemist (not specifically in the oil industry, but its all bunch of carbons arraigned differently and a few other things, there are very little differences in the makeup of the oils, at least of data they will provide and i've observed. biggest thing is there is no oil that is a forever oil and if you dont change it, there goes your engine)

Its people like Powell Racing and other racing teams that oils make a difference for, when you run your car pushing its limits and under huge stress loads like racing your car around a track.

OP for everyday driving the difference between brands is not noticeable, just change it regularly so you dont run broke down oil, thats where damage occurs. Although synthetics tend to not break down as quickly as conventional.

 

its the only oil i use now

 

only ss's say mobil 1. all others just say 5w-30

 

/thread

 

now this thread has become what we all expected...

 

Wow, people really take oil to extreme. If you ran Autozone brand oil for the life of the car, I bet you'd have no problems at all. Yes, Synthetics are better oils in extreme cold and extreme heat, BUT for the driving we do with our cars its not 100% necessary to use it. None of us live in -30F weather all the time or race our cars in 115-120F weather none stop. I'm not starting an argument, just stating my opinion. I never will use anything thinner then 10W30. Synthetic or non synthetic doesn't matter at all to me. I laugh at people who say "ohhh i hate castrol" etc etc. How the **** do you hate a certain brand of oil? If you put Mobil 1 in and you left your car in your driveway and I came and drained it and put in autozone of the same weight how the hell would you know? lol

 

i drive mine like i stole it with the police behind me....
so i guess for most cheapie oil is fine. for some its not.

 

I'll add my .02 to this one. I can attest to some peoples findings of regular Pennzoil being crappy. I used to work in a machine shop with my old man and I got first hand experience seeing the kind of damage crap oil can cause under hard use. I tore down a built sbc that had Castro Syntec run in it and a bbc that used Pennzoil. Both engines had all kinds of junk on the heads, lifter valley and corners of the oil pan. The engine with Syntec was worse than the one with Pennzoil. This was some years ago. Now, when I had my Nissan Titan, my first oil change was Mobil 1 full synthetic. 7500 miles later, it was just getting a brownish color. This time, I put Quakerstate Q-Horsepower full synthetic. Same amount of miles and driving (hard). It too was the same color and feel as the used Mobil 1. Third one was Castrol Syntec. At 4000 miles, it was already darker than the previous brands of oil at 7500 miles. When oil change time came around, it was almost as black as used diesel oil. I will never use Castrol synthetic oil again. I used Valvoline Supersyn for my last oil change in the truck and it too seemed to be holding up quite well to the abuse. I have since last year traded it for my wife's 2010 V6 Sonata. I have been using Valvoline Supersyn exclusively for this car and even went a bit past my due mileage by 1200 miles. It was still very new looking and didn't even really look used much after 8700 miles. I use Valvoline and Mobil1 in the Cobalt and have had good success with both. I haven't used Pennzoil synthetic and don't really care to from what I've seen from their regular oil. I also refuse to pay for craptastic Castrol Syntec too. Valvoline, Mobil 1, Quakerstate Q-synthetic and Royal Purple are the oils I've had great results with. I still think on a regular street engine like we have, specialty oils like Royal Purple, Redline and Amsoil are waaaay overkill. Just my .02 though.

 

umm you do know that oil is suppose to turn darker as it takes the contaminants out of the engine right? I would be worried when i do an oil change and its the same color as when i put it in.

 

It also depends on the filter used and type of driving. The Sonata doesn't get driven hard at all. The Cobalt and my Titan both had used looking oil when the time had come around. The Syntec was very dark, very fast using the same filter and type of driving. The oil pulled out of the Sonata did look used, just not as much as the Cobalt or my Titan did because it gets babied.

 

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