Camshafts
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Camshafts
A few questions
On JBP they have no cams for the 2.2 under the cobalt section, but on the 3rd gen section they do, I'm just wondering if these are interchagable or not.
http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0288
Also with a cam upgrade is there anything else I would need to upgrade? Valve Springs? Seals? etc.
On JBP they have no cams for the 2.2 under the cobalt section, but on the 3rd gen section they do, I'm just wondering if these are interchagable or not.
http://www.jbodyperformance.com/new/...catName=JP0288
Also with a cam upgrade is there anything else I would need to upgrade? Valve Springs? Seals? etc.
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No, JBP is currently developing (or getting ready to develop) cams for the 2.2.
As far as cams that can go in the car right now, only Comp. Cams Stage 1 I believe can be placed in the cobalt without tuning. Otherwise tuning is needed to adjust timing.
As far as cams that can go in the car right now, only Comp. Cams Stage 1 I believe can be placed in the cobalt without tuning. Otherwise tuning is needed to adjust timing.
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http://www.levelzeromotorsports.com/...7f704529cab65d
what about these? has anyone used them before?
even the heavy intake grind appears mild compared to comp cams stage 1
what about these? has anyone used them before?
even the heavy intake grind appears mild compared to comp cams stage 1
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Understand that the 2.2 ECOTECs in all the motors are basically the same. Yes, the camshafts would work in your vehicle. They would physically fit, yes.
As far as them not being available for your application, understand that companies like to develop camshafts that not only fit inside your motor but can "co-exist" with your computer fine. Alot of companies know that the average person who wants camshafts, cares about check engine lights, has their car inspected and isn't out to have a full race car. This is why they come up with "stages". Typically, the lower the stage, the less likely to have any check engine lights thrown cause they cause less valve overlap and have a less of a rough idle.
As far as level zero, their stage 2s have been known to cause thrown codes.
Remember that changing camshafts isn't some small part like an intake that changes airflow minimally. You camshafts are a critical part of the engine and changing them changes how much airflow is being seen inside the combustion chamber overall. With this happening, tuning is important as well. So untill HP Tuners is available, I would either buy them and not install them or deal with having a not 100% running vehicle.
As far as them not being available for your application, understand that companies like to develop camshafts that not only fit inside your motor but can "co-exist" with your computer fine. Alot of companies know that the average person who wants camshafts, cares about check engine lights, has their car inspected and isn't out to have a full race car. This is why they come up with "stages". Typically, the lower the stage, the less likely to have any check engine lights thrown cause they cause less valve overlap and have a less of a rough idle.
As far as level zero, their stage 2s have been known to cause thrown codes.
Remember that changing camshafts isn't some small part like an intake that changes airflow minimally. You camshafts are a critical part of the engine and changing them changes how much airflow is being seen inside the combustion chamber overall. With this happening, tuning is important as well. So untill HP Tuners is available, I would either buy them and not install them or deal with having a not 100% running vehicle.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
Understand that the 2.2 ECOTECs in all the motors are basically the same. Yes, the camshafts would work in your vehicle. They would physically fit, yes.
As far as them not being available for your application, understand that companies like to develop camshafts that not only fit inside your motor but can "co-exist" with your computer fine. Alot of companies know that the average person who wants camshafts, cares about check engine lights, has their car inspected and isn't out to have a full race car. This is why they come up with "stages". Typically, the lower the stage, the less likely to have any check engine lights thrown cause they cause less valve overlap and have a less of a rough idle.
As far as level zero, their stage 2s have been known to cause thrown codes.
Remember that changing camshafts isn't some small part like an intake that changes airflow minimally. You camshafts are a critical part of the engine and changing them changes how much airflow is being seen inside the combustion chamber overall. With this happening, tuning is important as well. So untill HP Tuners is available, I would either buy them and not install them or deal with having a not 100% running vehicle.
As far as them not being available for your application, understand that companies like to develop camshafts that not only fit inside your motor but can "co-exist" with your computer fine. Alot of companies know that the average person who wants camshafts, cares about check engine lights, has their car inspected and isn't out to have a full race car. This is why they come up with "stages". Typically, the lower the stage, the less likely to have any check engine lights thrown cause they cause less valve overlap and have a less of a rough idle.
As far as level zero, their stage 2s have been known to cause thrown codes.
Remember that changing camshafts isn't some small part like an intake that changes airflow minimally. You camshafts are a critical part of the engine and changing them changes how much airflow is being seen inside the combustion chamber overall. With this happening, tuning is important as well. So untill HP Tuners is available, I would either buy them and not install them or deal with having a not 100% running vehicle.
do you know anything about Level Zero's Triflow Camshafts? those are the ones that the link is pointing to, not stage 2's
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Originally Posted by Roadrunner
Thanks for posting
do you know anything about Level Zero's Triflow Camshafts? those are the ones that the link is pointing to, not stage 2's
do you know anything about Level Zero's Triflow Camshafts? those are the ones that the link is pointing to, not stage 2's
I have yet to see anyone show any dyno slips or any real complaints as far as they go but I know of one or two people with them. I know Owen Stampflee on the ECOTECForum.com has them and no complaints from him.
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
they look like regrinds... i've never really heard anything good about reground cams.
also, what's all this business about 2 seperate profiles??? this isn't a V-TEC car...
also, what's all this business about 2 seperate profiles??? this isn't a V-TEC car...
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Originally Posted by tricky1
Also with a cam upgrade is there anything else I would need to upgrade? Valve Springs? Seals? etc.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
The answer is No, unless these parts are already worn (which I doubt on a pretty much brand new car).
if one is going with a slightly more aggressive cam, that's true. if it's something pretty wild, it would always suggest a new set of springs. they're cheap insurance.
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
if one is going with a slightly more aggressive cam, that's true. if it's something pretty wild, it would always suggest a new set of springs. they're cheap insurance.
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Originally Posted by tricky1
Ok, well I'll wait for tuning. I'm thinking about going turbo if and or when it becomes available.
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GM offers cam blanks, which you need to get grinded. And no GM wouldnt offer tuning.
Edited because some people are still questioning it when I said it right there. They sell CAM BLANKS which you need to have grinded.
Edited because some people are still questioning it when I said it right there. They sell CAM BLANKS which you need to have grinded.
Last edited by rally; Oct 17, 2006 at 10:58 PM.
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Originally Posted by The_Blur
I could've sworn GMPP has a cam set.... Wouldn't GM have some sort of tuning for that?
For "tuning", nope.
Notice how the GM Performance Book tells you how to reach x HP but doesn't tell you anything about tuning
FYI: The GM race cars use Standalone systems.
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Originally Posted by NJHK
For the cams, yes.
For "tuning", nope.
Notice how the GM Performance Book tells you how to reach x HP but doesn't tell you anything about tuning
FYI: The GM race cars use Standalone systems.
For "tuning", nope.
Notice how the GM Performance Book tells you how to reach x HP but doesn't tell you anything about tuning
FYI: The GM race cars use Standalone systems.
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