Alright this is just rediculous!

1. You have to realize that even though you take out fuses and whatnot. There will always be some kind of limiter. Not for traction, just for the simple fact of engine protection!

2. We have light cars.

3. Our tires are actually wider than most cars our class. The wider the tire the worse it does in "loose" elements.

4. If your in snow, Spinning the tires does nothing but dig you into a deep hole. Which the only somewhat realistic advantage is going uphill...

5. It sounds like you people do not know what ABS was made for. It's not just for stopping. If your tires lock, you can not steer because simply... Your wheels are locked. Which Anti-Lock brakes prevent!

6. I know it "really cool" to do burnouts... drifting... or whatever. All thats really doing is producing ALOT of engine stress. Pressure on your control arms, struts, ect... Then you come around saying something is broken and it's GM's fault because of "bad engineering".

7. If you are about to be t-boned... Just slam in into L if you really think it will help. Sure, it still has somekind of TC but... C'mon people, what more do you want?

8. You are not a truck.

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But maybe it's just me. I'm not out to flame people and maybe I will be flamed. Oh well...

 

Agreed, my car doesn't have ABS and I stop just fine. Most people seem to think that ABS brakes are different than non ABS brakes. Most people under normal conditions hardly use the ABS. The only time it'll come on if you're a moron and jam on the brakes.

Drifting in a FWD car is ******* retarded.

 

Qft!

 

Lies!

 

my abs kicks on all the time..even in 3inches of snow, and i dont even jack the brakes..

i think thats tire related, but idk

 

Newsflash: You're wrong. ABS is designed to and DOES give you more control while braking. I've NEVER noticed a decrease in stopping power in either of the two cars with ABS vs the 4 cars I've driven without ABS.

I have no idea what would give you the impression that it's worse, but that's absolutely false.

 

Your right, my bad! Forgot I ordered a 10 foot lift kit for my car and 5 inch rims to go with them!

 

i dunno it works for me and i drive thru snow almost weekly and ive never had a problem with ice, or snow. i mean if u got the proper snow tires and drive at the proper speed have tc could only help.

 

Just put it in L gear and enjoy

 

So the other day I was pulling into work, and my parking spot is right up on a garage and there was some nice fresh snow on the ground, well I started braking really early but this car wasnt stopping, finnaly I was full brake, ABS slid me almost 10 feet and stopped me. Summary is, I stopped an inch before driving into a garage door.

Im pretty sure I made out better there with the abs then i would have without it so...

ABS FTW!

 

meh i never had an issue with the ABS besides the fact it seems to engage more then it should, gm's way of compensating for shitty braking imo

i still have a bone to pick with the TC tho

 

yeh no abs in snow = a sliding mess, but its fun tho. yeh i still got beef with my tc too, just doesnt wanna go away..anyone know how on the 07's yet. ebrake klik = no work L = No work ABS fuses = No work...WTF MATES?

 

Ok heres the thing, there are two type of TC, passive and an aggressive one
The passive one kinda hangs in the background, and works well
It's only when TC engages and you see the light come on, then you're fucked

As far as 07's, those methods (L, ebrake) work for me, turns it right off, but since it also turns off the passive form of TC, it's rather dumb and quite dangerous

 

LOL!

 

if L and e brake worked then i would expect to be able to fry some damn tire, or is this the rev limiter in my gay auto kicking in?

 

Ok, this is how I turn the traction control off...



...are you ready?




...I push the button on my dash that toggles it on and off. lol

 

wtfffffffffff dude seriously QFT

 

ABS is worse in the snow, FYI.

 

But what about on ice. i know not having abs there blows i go sideway with slight pressure.. but snow wasnt too bad at all, you are right.

 

this has been the most entertaining thread i have read ever i think.awesome.rants and raves.makes me soooo glad i live in florida where we dont have snow.only rain.ahhhhhh....

 

ya give it 4months i'll be in seattle where it snows 2 days a year

i envy you FL people, cept your 120 degree summers :P

 

You slide on ice and you're fucked, ABS or not. Last year before I got the Balt, I was driving my dad's trailblazer and I'm making a turn on to another road. All of sudden I hit a patch of black ice and lose all control. The ABS did nothing at all as I was able to gain control back before hitting a sign.

 

Im going to make an inline switch today to turn on and off my ABS and TC, pics later.

 

my '08 sport came with one...justa little button on the dash to the right of the steering wheel.

 

ok heres what im going to do, The e brake has a switch on it that turns TC off, ill just add a switch before that, this way i can turn it off and on when i want, ill do it and pics will be up today