I'll start by introducing myself really quick:
Names Ian, spent a year as a GM Service Technician, now at Mercedes Benz.

Vehicles a 2006 Cobalt LT, 5-speed, black with black cloth interior. 18" ADR racing wheels.


I bought the car with the intentions to make it faster then an SS/SC for less then I would have spent to buy one.

I have a T3/T04E 60trim .60A/r compressor, .63 A/r stage 3 wheel turbine, HKS 40mm external wastegate, and am in the process of making a Weld-el log style manifold.

I understand that the HP Tuners/SCT or any other tuning program for that matter hasnt been released yet. The car is not my daily driver (as a matter of a fact its part of a fleet of 5 vehicles) so it is not neccesary to have the car running in a certain amount of time. I can wait for the tuning software to come, and if it doesnt, then there are always FMU's.

My question is about intercooling. I would prefer to not have a large air to air unit behind the front bumper. I know the SS/SC use a water to air intercooler in the intake manifold but unfortunatly in my year of working for GM I never got the oppurtunity to remove the supercharger from the car and see the manifold.

Would it be possible to use the intake manifold from an SS/SC for my application? Does anyone have any pictures of the manifold/intercooler?

Thanks
Ian

 

yes you can and the great thing is that with the diferent end plate offerd in the stage 3 kit the intercooler is almost 86% efficeint and sufers from almost no pressure drop.

 

dude post some more pics, vids, and slips!

 

Suprisingly I dont have a lot of pictures of the Cobalt. I have way more of the other cars and truck. But heres 1 more I could find on my computer. I need to buy batteries for my Digicam then Ill take some more pictures.

Wearing its Winter Wheels.


And the only video I have. God I cant believe Im letting anyone see this. This was my first run at Cordova, first time launching the car, the first time trying to powershift second. So ignor the fact that I spun the tires and then completely missed second gear...LOL.

 

Your going to need to make a plate to cover the length of where the blower would sit. I'm thinking some nice aluminum with the throttle body mount on top. Hell might be able to get an old blower and hollow it out, maybe a 5.3 TB for the extra flow.

 

yep your biggest concern is finding a nice place to mount a throttle body...which will be nasty once you start piping IC pipes. Gains i think will be slim to none...I believe companys are making aftermarket manifold...but you would like to keep the water to air cooler. HMMM its up to you. with your ss bumper an IC would look nasty IMO.

 

That video was painful to watch, but hey, A for effort. Spun those tires real nice

 

I know having a big ol air to air mounted right in the front behind the SS bumper (nice catch, around here a lot of guys miss that) would look mean. However, the point is to keep it as easy, simple, and clean looking as possibe.

Im not against the idea of an ATA. I just figured if the SS manifold would work, might as well give it a try. Besides it will help keep the sleeper effect.

Does anyone have a picture of the manifold without the supercharger on it? Id love to see it.

 

I just watched it. And it hurt me to watch it Oh well. The car only had 1200 miles on it, and I've had a lot more practice launching RWD cars (unfortunatly they had slicks) so I figured it was all the same. As you can tell from the vid, launching a FWD cobalt is not the same as launching a RWD 300ZX on ET Streets!!

 

I can imagine It would be hard to launch correctly with a ******' rocket like that going off next to you.

 

I just watched this vid and LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, I hope I don't do that my first time at the track.

 

Yeah yeah, yall laugh it up. Im glad you all get as good a laugh out of it as I do. I had only had the car for like a week and a half. Oh well, no excuses.

Btw the Camaro in the right lane red lighted so even with my crappy example of driving i still won that round!!!

 

I Feel you TurboBlackBalt launch kinda sucked but everyone had a bad day once right?

 

that video was the best thing ive seen yet on this site

 

so what parts from the ss/sc do you have? i see the front bumper
thats cool that someone is going to give this a shot, i have heard that the FMU's dont work that well though. when are you planning to be done? i would be interested in how u are doing the tubing.

 

As long as everybody gets a laugh out of the video, I'm happy. There will be better videos up next year when I can get to the dragstip more.

I have the SS/SC front bumper cover, front lip (not on in the pictures) and soon the rear bumper cover and rear lip. I still need the skirts. Im thinking about a carbon fiber hood and trunk (no vents or wings) as the last of the body mods.

As soon as I find a SS/SC intake manifold for sale im going to purchase it and get to work. Im unsure as to wether the MAS/IAT sensor will be mounted preturbo, or in the charge air tubes. It will all depend on the tuning software and there recommendations.

The battle plan currently is to run the pipes out the wheel well and then into the engine bay so it resembles a cold air intake. Im going to use a recirculating style blow off valve as opposed to an open dump to minimize noise.

I dont know what Im going to do with the nitrous once the intercooler is in (if the WTA in the SS works). You really shouldnt try to shoot through an intercooler like that. It really doesnt work well...Maybe buy some NOS Nozzles and run a direct port kit?

And id prefer to stay away from FMU's but Aeromotive makes a really good FMU that works with a returnless style fuel system. However that will be a last resort if some tuning software never shows up.

 

Just 2 ideas to throw out there, I like the idea of using the SS/SC intercooler and manifold. You could use a SS/SC blower that’s been trashed, gut it, seal it up, and there is a long intake runner, like an old hi-rise manifold on a v-8. OR Twin Charge it. Here’s an example…

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews...t-1004787.html
“…Turbocharged cars have been around for decades and supercharged models even longer and the 1.4-litre Twincharge engine fitted to the Golf GT uses both. The supercharger operates at a maximum of 1.8 bar pressure, boosting the low end torque response where turbo cars can often feel lethargic.

Once the supercharger has done its bit, the turbo kicks in for high-end power. The peak power figure of 168bhp arrives at 6,000rpm whereas the maximum torque peak of 177lb/ft is retained all the way from 1,750 to 4,500rpm. Experts will realise that this makes a flexible and inherently driveable engine. The old cliché that this is a small capacity engine that drinks like one but drives like a bigger unit is, in this instance, bang on the money. The third technology mentioned above is Volkswagens proprietary FSI (Fuel Stratified Injection) system. FSI is a system that promises the twin benefits of more power and better economy. A high-pressure fuel line mounted on the side of the cylinder head, often dubbed common rail, injects fuel straight into the combustion chamber...”